I neglected to mention sections should be cut at 10um for best results. 

Tim Morken
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy/Neuromuscular Special Studies
Department of Pathology
UC San Francisco Medical Center


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To: Ken M <kdea...@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Histonet] Apple Green Birefringence in Amyliod slides

Ken, Yes, polarized light and apple green birefringence is diagnostic for 
amyloid with congo red and is the best practice. If you have a problem with 
known control slides  there are two possibilities: 1) make up fresh solution. 
The pH has to be right. Or 2) try other control slides. Maybe you cut through 
the amyloid area. 

Because we have hundreds of microscopes in our department most just use 
polarized film as the polarizer (put over the light source) and another put 
over the top of the slide as the analyzer. Turn one of the polarizing slides 
and you will see the birefringence appear. 

Source: 
"Polarizing film, 2"" x 2"" , PK/10 (BEST For use as a microscope polarizer)"   
Cat# S07372     Thermo Fisher Sci Health        $36.75  PK/10   "2" x 2"        

These are polarized film mounted in 2" film holders (like the old Kodachrome 
slides). 

Cheap and effective. (and avoids consternation from people losing expensive 
microscope polarizers)

Tim Morken
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy/Neuromuscular Special Studies Department of 
Pathology UC San Francisco Medical Center


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Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 11:43 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Apple Green Birefringence in Amyliod slides

Hi everyone.  I was wondering if anyone out there has any experience with 
diagnosing Amyloid tissue using Congo Red stained Kidney using polarized 
lenses.  Is it common to use polarized light to detect Amyloid deposits?  Does 
the absence of the "apple green birefringence" indicate a problem with the 
control tissue or the control slides?  Should this green bifringence always 
appear to confirm the diagnosis?  I know that the tissue should be cut thicker 
than normal (we usually cut at 5), but in the future maybe we will cut at 7 or 
8?
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