Well stated Tony, and thank for all this useful information. I am hopeful that we can get expiration dates overturned here in the United States. In the past, I have recommended a "Stability Guarantee" date to replace the "Expiration Date". After that date passes it would be the responsibility of the performing laboratory to validate that the antibody is still working properly. And, as you pointed out, this is easily accomplished with the positive control which is run in parallel. Laboratories cannot no longer afford to discard expensive reagents, especially those that are not being produced any longer. Also, with the current staffing crisis in Histology/IHC laboratories and supply-chain issues we need to simplify our work environment.
Richard Richard W. Cartun, MS, PhD Director, Histology & The Martin M. Berman, MD Immunopathology/Morphologic Proteomics Laboratory Assistant Director, Anatomic Pathology Department of Pathology & Laboratory Medicine Hartford Hospital 80 Seymour Street Hartford, CT 06102 (860) 972-1596 Office (860) 545-2204 (Fax) -----Original Message----- From: Tony Henwood (SCHN) via Histonet [mailto:histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2022 9:18 PM To: jayalakshmy p.s Cc: 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu' Subject: Re: [Histonet] Histonet Digest, Vol 220, Issue 8 EXTERNAL email from Outside HHC! Do NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders. Hi Jayalakshmy, This our policy at the Kid's hospital in Sydney: Validation of Expired Antibodies Usually when a new concentrated antibody is received it will have an expiry date of around 2 years from receipt but usually we can continue to use antibodies well past this expiry date. If the antibody continues to stain control sections appropriately, with no loss of sensitivity and no increase in non-specific staining then its use should be continued. If positive control samples are deemed unsatisfactory, even if the antibody is within the manufacturer’s printed expiration date, evaluation of the clinical specimen is aborted and the test deemed invalid. The quality of the primary antibody is therefore not based on an expiration date, but rather on its performance on a case-by-case basis with appropriate positive and negative control samples (1). Several authors have investigated whether the shelf-life of diagnostic antibodies was longer than the expiry date on the label. They found them to work perfectly on routine histology sections (1-4). Monoclonal antibodies originally supplied as culture supernatants or as ascites (neat or diluted), of all isotypes, as well as all of the polyclonal antibodies, produced satisfactory staining irrespective of their age. Notable exceptions were ammonium-precipitated, IgM or conjugated antibodies. The policy at CHW is, when an antibody has reached past its expiry date, its control is tested to ensure that there has been no loss of sensitivity in the test. This is now controlled through iPassport, where a task is attached to the antibody requesting validation of control when the antibody is expired. This can be easily done by using the History Screen and looking for use of this antibody within the last two weeks. If results of control are acceptable, another task is instigated for 6 months hence. For antibody concentrates that are received without an expiry date, a verification is scheduled 12 months after receipt of the antibody. If an antibody fails to perform to expectations than a Corrective Action Request is instigated in iPassport and appropriate investigation is instituted. References: 1. Savage, E. C., & DeYoung, B. R. (2010). Antibody Expiration in the Context of Resource Limitation What Is the Evidence Basis?. American journal of clinical pathology, 134(1), 60-64. 2. Balaton, A. J., Drachenberg, C. B., Rucker, C., Vaury, P., & Papadimitriou, J. C. (1999). Satisfactory performance of primary antibodies beyond manufacturers' recommended expiration dates. Applied Immunohistochemistry & Molecular Morphology, 7(3), 221. 3. Argentieri, M. C., Pilla, D., Vanzati, A., Lonardi, S., Facchetti, F., Doglioni, C., & Cattoretti, G. (2013). Antibodies are forever: a study using 12-26‐year‐old expired antibodies. Histopathology, 63(6), 869-876. 4. Drachenberg, C. B., Papadimitriou, J. C., Balaton, A. J., & Vaury, P. (2001). The total test approach to standardization of immunohistochemistry. Archives of pathology & laboratory medicine, 125(4), 471-471. Regards Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC), FFSc(RCPA) Principal Scientist, the Children’s Hospital at Westmead Adjunct Fellow, School of Medicine, University of Western Sydney Tel: 612 9845 3306 Fax: 612 9845 3318 Pathology Department the children's hospital at westmead Cnr Hawkesbury Road and Hainsworth Street, Westmead Locked Bag 4001, Westmead NSW 2145, AUSTRALIA -----Original Message----- From: jayalakshmy p.s via Histonet [mailto:histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] Sent: Thursday, 10 March 2022 1:27 PM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: Re: [Histonet] Histonet Digest, Vol 220, Issue 8 Hello all, I would like to know whether Immunohistochemistry markers can be used after its expiry date(atleast in resource poor countries). If yes, for how much period of time and what is the criteria to look for? 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