Your method makes no sense! It looks like something informally passed along 
among students and technicians who have never read a book.
Cryoprotection means preventing formation of ice crystals or, as it's usually 
done, minimizing their size. Sucrose is a cryoprotectant; the higher the 
concentration the better, but strong solutions penetrate the tissue slowly. For 
fixed specimens dissolve the sucrose in water.  (For unfixed, use an isotonic 
phosphate buffer, but that's only if a day or so at 4C is OK for your needs. 
Very fast freezing may be needed, especially for muscle.)
OCT is not a cryoprotectant; it's goop that surrounds the specimen and enters 
cracks and spaces but it does not penetrate. OCT serves to hold each section 
together during transfer from the cryostat's knife onto a glass slide or 
coverslip.
For some more information (much of it derived from Histonet) have a look at the 
Biological Stain Commission's FAQ, at 
https://biologicalstaincommission.org/faqlist.htm#CRYPRO.
John Kiernan
https://www.schulich.uwo.ca/anatomy//people/faculty/emeriti/kiernan_john.html
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From: Tyrone Genade via Histonet <histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
Sent: November 30, 2023 9:46 PM
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Subject: [Histonet] O.C.T. what MW PVA and PEG?

Hello,

I'm using a cryoprotection protocol that involves 3-stage cryoprotection of 15% 
glucose O/N, then 30% + 50% OCT O/N and then finally O/N in OCT. Compared to 
previous protocols this works very well -- even when cutting through eyes and 
lenses (which had previously given a lot of grief).

My issue is that preparing the 30% + 50% OCT is a schlep. The OCT puts up a lot 
of resistance against mixing with the 60% sucrose. It would be much simpler if 
I could prepare 30% sucrose with powdered PVA and PEG. Does anyone know what MW 
polymers of PVA and PEG to use and what concentrations to approximate 
commercial (Scigen Tissue-Plus) OCT?

Thanks

Tyrone Genade Ph.D.
Quillen College of Medicine
ETSU
Johnson City, TN
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Sent: November 30, 2023 9:46 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu <histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
Subject: [Histonet] O.C.T. what MW PVA and PEG?

Hello,

I'm using a cryoprotection protocol that involves 3-stage cryoprotection of 15% 
glucose O/N, then 30% + 50% OCT O/N and then finally O/N in OCT. Compared to 
previous protocols this works very well -- even when cutting through eyes and 
lenses (which had previously given a lot of grief).

My issue is that preparing the 30% + 50% OCT is a schlep. The OCT puts up a lot 
of resistance against mixing with the 60% sucrose. It would be much simpler if 
I could prepare 30% sucrose with powdered PVA and PEG. Does anyone know what MW 
polymers of PVA and PEG to use and what concentrations to approximate 
commercial (Scigen Tissue-Plus) OCT?

Thanks

Tyrone Genade Ph.D.
Quillen College of Medicine
ETSU
Johnson City, TN
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