I wouldn't go so far as to say that "RDF is not end-user friendly". I think that's on the UI/UX failures up to this point. The subject + predicate + object model can be displayed and UI elements designed in a way that makes the representation of relationships easy to document. Autofills with short notations, for instance, solve a lot of the ambiguities of deciding "hmm same_as vs. is_instance_of". I guess what I'm trying to say is that the unfriendliness of RDF to an end-user isn't necessarily or primarily because of the model for assertions but the UIs that have been attempted thus far by non-designers. Also, I think Albin is on the right track by investigating the triple tag/machine tag format ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tag_(metadata)#Triple_tags) for expressing complex relationships.
Cheers! –Tod On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Albin Larsson <[email protected]> wrote: > I would like to go with the ohm:uri:same_as and a ohm:uri:is_instance_of, > the idea it self is based on the idea that a mapper or end user will never > see a format such as RDF or JSONLD. > > Your first example would be a is_instance_of. > > As I wrote earlier we should support RDF/other formats, but not by force > the mapper to use them, ohm:uri:same_as would be equal to owl:sameAs(I > think(but has to look into it)) so developers would be translating the > tagging to RDF based on a schema we should provide. Then by creating some > middleman software and a basic API we could provide RDF/JSONLD/... output > and give developers a easier life. > > Would take maybe a week of work to create such a API. > > So short story, owl:sameAs has a equal relation tag, that tag just has to > be translated. This is done because RDF is not end-user friendly. Try > finding a place to enter RDF at Wikidata... > > // > Albin > > 2015-04-10 22:30 GMT+02:00 Rob H Warren <[email protected]>: > >> Albin, >> >> owl:sameAs would allow us to link the object in OHM space to other >> databases, such as DB/Wikipedia/WikiData: >> >> Linking the OHM version of say >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_aqueduct >> >> Or linking the ww1 trenches within OHM to their Muninn equivalent. >> >> Or linking greek structures with their pelagios equivalent >> http://pelagios-project.blogspot.ca/ >> >> Or linking modern administrative locations with their geonames,org >> location. >> >> Since a LOD version of OHM will be positioned to be the equivalent to >> dbpedia in historical GIS terms, the use of owl:sameAs would enable people >> to discover non-OHM resources since it is the most obvious LOD data set to >> link to. >> >> -rhw >> >> >> > On Apr 6, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Albin Larsson <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > Sorry for the delay answering, I have been busy with other stuff... >> > >> > About the OGC idea I can't say more then that it would be devastating >> to break the existing tools, the existing OHM instances(the rails-fork) is >> hard enough to maintain. >> > >> > Rob could you explain future why owl:sameAs is needed and provide a use >> case? I'm not getting the idea... >> > >> > // >> > Albin >> > >> > >> > 2015-04-02 15:55 GMT+02:00 Rob H Warren <[email protected]>: >> > Albin, >> > >> > I'd add owl:sameAs integration to the list of tags so that we can use >> OHM as a resource discovery mechanism. -rhw >> > >> > >> > > On Mar 27, 2015, at 4:12 PM, [email protected] >> wrote: >> > > >> > > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 13:57:36 +0100 >> > > From: Albin Larsson <[email protected]> >> > > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> > > Subject: [OHM] Linked Data >> > > Message-ID: >> > > <CAM-QGEmn+WwHCK4eee24Nn=+rPvxjFdSLqJ5=fqS33m= >> [email protected]> >> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> > > >> > > My thoughts on linked data in OpenHistoricalMap and how I do it: >> > > >> > > >> http://abbe98.github.io/blog/2015/03/26/mapping-the-past-with-linked-data-in-openhistoricalmap/ >> > > >> > > Feedback, ideas, thoughts? >> > > >> > > // >> > > Albin >> > >> > >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Historic mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/historic > > -- Tod Robbins Digital Asset Manager, MLIS todrobbins.com | @todrobbins <http://www.twitter.com/#!/todrobbins>
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