Date: 2004-04-28T15:09:18
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   Wiki: Jakarta HiveMind Wiki
   Page: NotXMLProposal
   URL: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-hivemind/NotXMLProposal

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 KnutWannheden: To me the crucial question is whether the module (or 
deployment) descriptor should be ''descriptive'' or ''imperative'' (as seen in 
the make vs. Ant war).  For HiveMind I tend to favor a descriptive form.  But 
it should be possible to allow both.  We'll just have to decide which one goes 
into the framework and which one into the library :-)
 
-[http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-tapestry/GeoffLongman GeoffLongman]: Speaking 
as a Hivemind user, XML and SDL look fine. I have not warmed up to 
[http://www.yaml.org YAML] at all. Using a true scripting language like Groovy 
turns me off completely. Leave the descriptors as ''descriptors'' that describe 
or declare something and are not executables. Speaking as somebody who ''might 
someday'' commit to building an Eclipse plugin for Hivemind, XML is the path of 
least resistance for me. A declarative markup like SDL or [http://www.yaml.org 
YAML] might be ok too if the parser support were at a level conducive to 
developers tools. FYI, no open source XML parsers were suitable out of the box 
for [http://spindle.sourceforge.net Spindle]. Although, I'm not a parser 
writing kinda guy so - Rat's I gotta run, will finish these thoughts soon.
+[http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-tapestry/GeoffLongman GeoffLongman]: Speaking 
as a Hivemind user, XML and SDL look fine. I have not warmed up to 
[http://www.yaml.org YAML] at all. Using a true scripting language like Groovy 
turns me off completely. Leave the descriptors as ''descriptors'' that describe 
or declare something and are not executable. Speaking as somebody who ''might 
someday'' commit to building an Eclipse plugin for Hivemind, XML is the path of 
least resistance for me. A declarative markup like SDL or [http://www.yaml.org 
YAML] would be ok too if the parser support were at a level conducive to 
developers tools. An DOM equivalent (AST tree) with line ''and'' character 
offset ''and'' range precise information is needed. FYI, no open source XML 
parsers were this precise out of the box for [http://spindle.sourceforge.net 
Spindle]. 

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