Yes, the spring.jar would be on the classpath, but you would not be
firing up a Spring BeanContext; we'd be using Spring as a library
rather than as a framework.


On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 16:54:25 -0400, Hensley, Richard
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Would using the Spring code with a HiveMind wrapper imply any spring
> dependencies?
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Howard Lewis Ship [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:50 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Transaction Service, Hibernate without JTA
> 
> I've been emailing back and forth with Rod Johnson; I'd much rather
> leverage their code than re-invent it.  Seems like we should be able
> to create a HiveMind wrapper around the Spring transaction interceptor
> and be done with it.
> 
> On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 22:19:10 +0700, Jean-Francois Poilpret
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I was thinking about James' remark regarding the fact that we should work
> on
> > a generic Transaction Service utility for Hivemind.
> > This service would have implementations for JDBC connections/transactions,
> > JTA transactions, Hibernate transactions...
> > I started to have some reflection about that and dramatically refactored
> > code that I had started to write for Hibernate support. This is quite a
> lot
> > of work actually!
> >
> > About Hibernate I was wondering about one important point:
> > - outside the context of JTA, does it make sense to allow creating more
> than
> > one SessionFactory (ie, more than one DB to connect to)? If so, then how
> > should we manage transactions? I mean, if your code works at the same time
> > with 2 sessions (referencing 2 different databases), when the time comes
> for
> > the transaction service to commit the work, what should it do to commit 2
> > transactions independently of one another (no JTA), what should happen in
> > case of a problem?
> > - wouldn't it sound better (I mean, more logical) to restrict usage of
> only
> > one SessionFactory when there is no JTA transaction service available?
> >
> > Actually, the same question applies as well to JDBC: should we allow
> having
> > more than one DataSource in the system?
> >
> > Some ideas about that?
> >
> > If I have more time this week-end I will try to come up with a first
> version
> > including the following:
> > - TransactionService interface + dependent classes (the "transaction
> > framework"...)
> > - JdbcTransactionService + simple example
> > - HibernateTransactionService (draft) in "mono-SessionFactory" + simple
> > example
> >
> > It could be ready for upload during next week.
> >
> > JTA will certainly not come until much later (I have to self-learn about
> it
> > first and find out a JTA Manager that can work out of the box (ie, not
> > inside a complete EJB container)).
> >
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> Creator, Jakarta Tapestry
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