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--- Khalila Asri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> As I said... is that the actual situation? "PUSHED
> back the Imam ..
> correction the OLD Imam. Better check it first... a
> NUDGE maybe seen as PUSH
> for some people.. and don't get side track by giving
> example of bedroom..
> Now that you mentioned it... when an offical(must
> have known before hand..
> relatives usually) visitor come to our hse... for
> the first 3 days.. we
> should treat them with high respact.. thus give them
> the best room.. well if
> MY BEDROOM is to be used... why not? I can always go
> to the other room for
> the 3 days.. AND we are taking only for one
> fardu..Is that so much to ask?
> As I said in the South usualy they are invited to be
> the Imam.. Maybe at
> other places you don't.. I don't want to be rude
> here... are you guys so
> afraid of losing control that even to give way for
> one fardu is such a BIG
> matter?
> Added to that maybe you should check this out... apa
> hukum memberi laluan
> kepada pelawat seperti Khir Toyo untuk jadi Imam
> pada fardu it? I'm sure as
> a good Muslim you can answer this easily... but if
> not maybe you should
> refer to the OLD Imam or those you can trust to give
> the right answer.
> 
> Well that is a nice proverb you have.. masuk kandang
> lembu menguak.. masuk
> kandang kambing mengembik..
> 
> But being a Malay we have other proverb too...
> shouldn't based on only one
> such as:
> 1 - Buah Nangka di luar pagar, ambil galah tolong
> jolokan.. Dia budak baru
> belajar kalau silap tolong tunjukan..
> 2 -  Macam Kancil masuk Kampung... (Myth did say
> Kancil is one of the
> intelegent creture but why bila masuk kampung he can
> be lost?) so kalau tak
> di inform of the rules there org ada PHD pun bole
> buat the same thing..
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jalak lenteng [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 12:05 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Khalila Asri;
> [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: H-Net* Anak Toyo berlagak MahaToyol 
> 
> 
> Assalamualaikum...,
> You're talking about custom's issue here...
> Is it the custom in your house that let other people
> came into your house and go wherever he/she wants?
> Even in you bedroom?
> 
> Mosque is Allah's house. Muslim's can go in and go
> wherever they want but BE POLITE!
> The issue here is not wether Mat Khir can become
> Imam
> but the issue here is why he need to "push" the Old
> Imam back? Be a gentleman and mosque is not the
> right
> place for people to show offs, be it whatever
> occupation you're in,Menteri Besar, Engineers,
> Managers, Directors etc. 
> 
> Malay poem: Masuk kandang lembu menguak, masuk
> kandang
> kambing mengembek.
> 
> Wasallam;
> Jalak
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> > Betul juga tu, dia nak jadi imam bukan nak jadi
> > perompak, bagilah peluang orang 
> > nak buat yang baik. 
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> > > OK apa kata kita dapatkan Imam tu In person to
> > describe what actually
> > > happen? Not just from an observer? From what the
> > original writer... I can
> > > see he write what he feel but not what the
> Imam...
> > > Since you guys is good in IT... and have your
> own
> > web.. I suggest when
> > > writing it maybe you can include the video type
> as
> > well.. more convincing..
> > > As in e-mail anybody can say anything..write
> > anything..
> > >  
> > > Added to that when someone such as ADUN came for
> a
> > visit.. sometime they are
> > > requested to be the Imam for that fardu... maybe
> > not so normal in the North.
> > > Before condemn people maybe we should understand
> > why... its not just asking
> > > people to respect your value... but you have to
> > respect others too... then
> > > we have TRUE respect.
> > >  
> > > Anyway one side of the story is not
> enough..Agree?
> > >  
> > > And I don't see you our calture like to boikot
> > people before giving that
> > > person a 2 chance? As I said... how pure is your
> > heart to easily condemn
> > > people at first meeting.. and incident?
> > >  
> > >  
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 4:00 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: H-Net* Anak Toyo berlagak MahaToyol
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> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Memarahi ada waktunya perlu dan menjadi
> kemestian.
> > Membenci orang yang 
> > > melakukan kefasadan tidak semestinya bermakna
> kita
> > mendakwa kita ni perfect.
> > > 
> > > At least kita tidak tergolong ke dalam kumpulan
> > orang-orang yang apabila 
> > > melihat kemungkaran tidak menyumbang apa-apa
> untuk
> > membaikinya sekalipun 
> > > dengan membenci melalui hati. 
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