Sometimes the coding you do isn't that complicated and doesn't really
deserve a whole article to talk about it. Say someone decoded one message in
CS, you're hardly going to write up an article on it. But if you can just
add this tiny snippet of information to a wiki then others can too. I don't
think it would take long until every message is decoded and easy for
everyone to see. Of course you can be almost guaranteed that every message
in CS has been decoded by some coder, but you'll not find the details of
them with Google at the moment.

A lot of people just can't be bothered to write a huge article. Adding
content to a wiki is so easy I'm sure there would be a lot more
contributors.

It would be good if VERC could host the wiki as we know we can trust them to
do a good job of it.



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Shimmins
Sent: 31 October 2004 01:46
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [hlcoders] A Half-life wiki?

>The Wiki could even be a reference on common HL2 functions, that people
>could write up at their leisure. That's something TWL and V-ERC don't
>have.

Sorry, either I misunderstood you, or you misunderstood me.

What I meant to say was that why cant placed like TWL be a general reference
for common HL2 function that people have written at their leisure.  Any
registered member can currently submit articles on TWL.  The only difference
that I see between a Wiki and this setup is the ability for anyone to edit
the content of their article.

Michel

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut"
Andrews
Sent: Sunday, 31 October 2004 1:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlcoders] A Half-life wiki?

Because they probably don't want a dead part of their site with twits
erasing stuff all the time.

Unless they had assurances that this project would actually go somewhere
most websites would be reluctant.

- Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews



Michael Shimmins wrote:

>But my point is *why* can't TWL have that?  The mechanism is in place to do
>it, people just don't.
>
>Michael
>
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>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NuclearFriend
>Sent: Sunday, 31 October 2004 12:01 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [hlcoders] A Half-life wiki?
>
>The Wiki could even be a reference on common HL2 functions, that
>people could write up at their leisure. That's something TWL and V-ERC
>don't have.
>
>Btw, BlueWolf said hl2db.com would host it. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:37:08 -0400, Dave Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>The main difference is that a wiki is more open, in that anyone can
>>come in and continually refine and update pages at will.  A good
>>example of this would be if someone wrote a page up for a particular
>>tool, and then the tool gets an update.  The page's instructions may
>>not be relevant any longer, but the article is often "stuck" talking
>>about the old version - which may be confusing to readers who find it
>>later who are trying to follow the tutorial.
>>
>>Of course, this DOES open up the downsides of wiki's where people can
>>put up ill written  content, or just go around and destroy pages.
>>Someone mentioned Wikipedia, which is a great example of the power of
>>a wiki, but also has a large team of "guardian angels" which maintain
>>the content against n'er do wells.  (Just go look up the history for
>>George W Bush or John Kerry on wikipedia to see this - people
>>routinely knock out these pages and the angels have to restore them
>>sometimes hourly.)
>>
>>One of my favorite wiki software packages is the Twiki package
>>(Twiki.org) as it allows you to host multiple sites easily within on
>>wiki, and allows regular users to create variables on the fly.  It
>>uses the variables in a hierarchical way to allow people to customize
>>settings at various levels.  (Simple irrelevant example: the entire
>>wiki site may declare a background color, then declare a different one
>>for the individual twiki web, then allow the individual user to
>>declare their own.)  This of course can also make it very confusing
>>and overwhelming too.
>>
>>But just about any wiki would work... and really, it doesn't need to
>>be overly complex.  Let me do another round of "state of the wiki
>>software" that I haven't done in a while, and see what I can find that
>>will get us out of the gate quickly.  Since there does appear to be at
>>least some interest, I'll likely just get a domain and a cheap linux
>>web host to host it, and maybe accept donations or run google ads if
>>it takes off, to cover my costs.
>>
>>Give me a few weeks, and I'll see what I can pull together.
>>
>>D
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:03:52 -0500, Jorge Rodriguez
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I support such a wiki, and I would certainly contribute if not for great
>>>sites like The Wavelength http://www.thewavelength.net and others that
>>>already have most of the information needed to start an HL mod. The
>>>subject of an HL wiki has been talked about before, but what purpose
>>>would it serve which is not already served by existing websites? I'm
>>>open to ideas.
>>>--
>>>Jorge "Vino" Rodriguez
>>>
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