Well that's great to hear.
Updating is a bit of the pain in the ass for me since I couldn't
continue with my main work I can only start with some profiles equipment
related work that require changes in a bunch of files.
However the other guy I'm working on this with is busy moving, so we
decided to take a 1 week break until he can do his share of the work. In
the meantime we've discussed some alternatives and he came up with an
old design doc that seems interesting for me to start fiddling a bit
with as a Battle for Wesnoth project.
May mean I won't ever get back to this anyway depending on how things go
though, that other project may be alot more fun.
Good to get a reply though, just wish I'd gotten one sooner on the Black
Cat games forums, but it seems the devs that were posting have decided
to have deserted the SDK section since a few days ago...
Regards,
Yorg "DuckSauce" Kuijs
Jonathan Sutton wrote:
VPKs get a big speed boost by not having to search the local disk for loose
files. We're aware of the inconvenience this causes for modders though, so
we're looking into a command line option that overrides the behavior. You can
enable that while working to quickly iterate.
Regarding mods, we're only a week from release and still fixing critical issues, so the code is being updated frequently. It will settle down. I would always recommend integrating the latest source code changes though, else your mod will be left with bugs that are fixed in the main game. BeyondCompare or Perforce can make copying over the changes quick and easy.
-----Original Message-----
From: hlcoders-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlcoders-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Yorg Kuijs
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 4:49 AM
To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming
Subject: [hlcoders] Alien Swarm VPK
Hey list,
As some of you may know, Alien Swarm uses some VPK files to store some
stuff, for some reason it will load files in it over files directly in
the folder, which means making your own vpk.
Can anyone tell me the advantages of rebuilding a .vpk over and over
just to make one line of change in a .res, script or other files.
Additionaly, todays Alien Swarm update broke all Alien Swarm mods, I
wonder if getting rid of the .vpk/copying it over to my mod's folder is
going to be helpfull to avoid that(probably not since there's still a
load of other stuff that's not in the .vpk that it loads from the main game.
It may be just me, but this way of modding seems extremely
inneffecient(not talking about the .vpk's), Alien Swarm is constantly
getting updated, why not have an Alien Swarm SDK Base so we don't
randomly get our mods broken or altered in way we do not want it to be
altered just because the main game gets updated.
DLL's are loaded just fine, yet changes in scripts and whatnot being
loaded from Alien Swarm are resulting in mods breaking, that's just nasty.
Were the early days of Source modding as bad as this?
TL:DR version:
Todays Alien Swarm update broke mods, in a way that gameplay changes
can't be tested, because the camera has become extremely screwed.
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I may be rambling some non-sense here, but there do seem to be some new
ways to approach Alien Swarm modding, not explained and breaking stuff
for everyone, it makes the SDK seem very modding unfriendly towards
mods, was the only purpose really just showing off and not get a new
influx of modders?
Regards,
Yorg "DuckSauce" Kuijs
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