Running a CS server at the age of 12 to me is not an issue. The concern I would have from being a parent is the Securities of the OS, PC, Firewall and such.
And if he or she is going to bed ontime. I as a server admin and website host NEVER gets to bed before 1a. :-) -DOA CyberGameZone.com --- hash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thank Dennis for voicing himself far better than I > ever could. I too run a > couple of servers off a cable connection, and while > its far from what I'd > like to have, it's making due with what I have and > what I have to spend. The > 40 or so regulars seem to enjoy it, so I guess you > really can run a server > from cable, within reason. > > What, exactly, is the problem with 12 year old > running servers anyways? If I > came home to find my 12 year old had figured out how > to set up a server for > him and his friends to play on, I'd be thrilled that > he'd be following my > footsteps into geekdom. So with the new server > listings you have to scroll a > bit and be a bit more choosey to avoid servers like > this. While this can be > slightly annoying, I don't see how this is as big of > a deal as everyones > making it out to be. > > I'm sure everyone knows this link, but Whisper made > a point of a guide so > http://server.counter-strike.net/ . Yes it's cs > specific, but the info there > can be used for any hl server. It has a very > detailed guide, and even > answers "how many people can I run on my 512/256 > ADSL connection??". > > I'm not going to rip on valve, but the last two > years has been nothing but > pushed back release dates, ignoring VAC for other > projects, and bug fixes > that fix two things and brings three. Again, I'm not > ripping on valve for > this, I'm just saying that it's not exactly new, or > anything different. So > now that source beta is out and HL2 is finally > coming out (we think), work > on VAC has seems to be completely halted - again > tho, who didn't see this > coming? Frustrating as hell I agree, but not exactly > a surprise. > > -hash > > From: "Whisper ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Well maybe you are not a 12 year old Dennis, but > from the questions > > that repeatedly asked, and the complete lack of > maths skills > > demonstrated by far too many people who wish to be > "server admins" I > > don't think it is that elitist or harsh to make > the call! (BTW, if you > > think the comments apply to you then obviously > they do, if they don't > > then, you ought to ignore them like any sensible > person would if they > > did not have some inferiority complex or > something) > > > > Especially considering how much of a retarded > waste of time this issue > > is in the scheme of things in regards to the > problems people who know > > what they are talking about would rather see > addressed first!! > > > > Like how about a friggin VAC update? > > How about the de_nuke flashbang bug? > > How about fixing silent planting? > > How about an Official Valve approved clear and > concise guide to > > setting servers up so we can direct these 12 year > olds to it whenever > > they ask stupid questions like "how many people > can I run on my > > 512/256 ADSL connection??" ???? > > > > On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 13:10:02 -0400, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Well said Dennis. > > > > > > Another point I'd like to make - a lot of you > may see the complaining > made > > > about the MSL sorting method unwarranted, and > from all of the whining > and > > > unconstructive discussion taking place about it > here, I can see why. > > > > > > However - the current sorting method went from > one that admins could at > least > > > do something about, to a method that doesnt > really favor too many admins > at > > > all, especially those that pay for a dedicated > server on a high-end > network. > > > > > > Did the old method have flaws? Yes, but > managible. The new method is > worse. > > > Good thing tho is that YES, Valve IS listening, > just that the current > > > implementation was poorly thought out and > implemented. It is fixable, > just > > > hope that they are still listening and will do > something about it. > > > > > > And out of all the discussion, whining and > complaining spent on this > thread, I > > > am sorry to say that I am the *only one* to > offer up any kind of > solution (see > > > my last post). If you're going to file a > complaint about something, > fine, but > > > at least have the foresight to offer a solution > as well, otherwise > you're just > > > wasting everyones time, esp your own. > > > > > > - K2 > > > http://www.hardfought.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > All of a sudden I'm reading messages from > pissed-off elitists saying > that > > > > servers run from a home connection are somehow > meaningless, run by > > > > 12-year-olds, poorly run, or otherwise > insignificant. While this is > > > > certainly true in many cases, there ARE some > that are well run by > people who > > > > have just as much pride in running a clean, > fun, and yes, well-liked > server > > > > as you do. > > > > > > > > Point one: Like it or not, EVERY ONE of them > is part of the same > "community" > > > > that you guys who do it for the money are. > Don't forget, the original > intent > > > > of CS, DoD, TFC, etc. was exactly that. The > community was MEANT to be > game > > > > enthusiasts running servers from home > connections. At some point > someone > > > > figured out that they could install a server > on their T1 line at work > and > > > > host a much larger game. From there it evolved > into commercial > ventures as > > > > the high bandwidth connections became more > prevalent. I know because I > > > > watched it happen. > > > > > > > > Point two: I'm much, MUCH older than 12, and > probably older than just > about > > > > everyone on this list. I ran a small TFC > server from my cable > connection > > > > until WON went down, and I had pretty much > only regulars, which tells > me I > > > > was doing something right. I did daily > maintenance, read the logs to > see who > > > > was causing trouble when there was no admin, > and strictly enforced the > rules > > > > to prevent anyone from spoiling the fun for > everyone else. I'm sure > I'm not > > > > the only one with a cable server who did this. > That's a lot more than > I can > > > > say for most of you people and your 3 Ghz, > dual-Zeon, 2 gig RAM, T3's. > === message truncated === ===== YIM: cybergamezone2002 Gaming Website: http://www.cybergamezone.com My League: http://league.cybergamezone.com Hotwheels Website: http://store.cybergamezone.com Gaming Clan Website: http://www.cybergamezone.net __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
