Heh, problem being that with vac disablers and most of the servers being
hit having people under NDA's they'd have trouble getting the evidence
and IP addresses for individual hackers.

Perhaps some of the larger GSP's getting hit could forward on a
collection of data to a VALVe representative (might be interesting to
see what Gabe said if he suddenly had links to the IP addresses, demos
and steamid's of several hundred hacker reports sitting in his inbox :p)

 -  Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
Sent: Saturday, 2 October 2004 9:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens

Here are a selection (Not even scratching the surface btw) of
STEAM_ID's we know have been generated outside of the STEAM system

STEAM_0:0:4252895
STEAM_0:1:4279614
STEAM_0:1:4294106
STEAM_0:0:4342345
STEAM_0:1:4361313
STEAM_0:0:4418181
STEAM_0:1:4417361

I think these may look familiar to a few other ISP's in my region Im
afraid.

What I've posted here, does not even represent 1% of the total number
of STEAM_ID's we have banned that fall within these ranges.

And we know its the same people because they have the audacity to come
back with the same name and/or same IP a minute after being
permanently banned.

Valve if you are listening, what these people are doing in on the
verge of industrial espionage, because they are not just being
disruptive or even bothering to try and hide the fact they are
cheating, they are systematically doing everything possible to devalue
Valves Intellectual Property and Good Will.

They rejoin so many times, change their IP addresses, to avoid the
bans in such a systematic and calculated fashion that it appears as if
this is their job to do so, not because they are little 12 year old
retards.

I think suing a few individual cheats for damage to your IP and good
will would also go some way to stopping what these people appear to be
doing in their efforts to destroy your and our hard work and
investment in time and money!

Cheers
Whisper


On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 21:31:30 +1000, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You know its getting to the point that if we see a STEAM_0:1:44xxx or
> STEAM_0:1:45xxx STEAM_ID we just ban them and see if they complain or
> come back with a new STEAM_ID.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:32:04 -0700, Stephen Micheals
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This new method for cheaters to play on steam servers without a good
> > valid account is way too easy, from reading the info on their site
it
> > seems as if it could have been stoped easy if thay disable the use
of
> > the "Steam Client App configuration-override file" for regular users
> > of steam and make a diffrent way for users to debug.
> >
> > their website needs to be shut-down quick.
> >
> > On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 00:37:55 +1000, Bruce Bahamut Andrews
> >
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Nah that's a stupid name.
> > >
> > > On the bright side of steam, instead of hackers stealing id's
they're
> > > creating their own, so it doesn't affect the buyers as-much -
though I
> > > suppose that means less copies of half-life bought =)
> > >
> > >  -  Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews
> >
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