Haha yea...

I am very pissed that Valve hasn’t had more support for Steam related
technology since the release of Half-Life 2... I mean Steam has been buggy
and weird in general, and had poor anti-cheat protection for a while now...
but now that I've forked over $60 for half-life 2, I kind of expect a lot of
these things to be resolved by now, or being fixed very quickly as we speak.

Don’t get me wrong, I see the potential of steam as being something really
great.. but right now with the flakey friends network being practically
unusable, and no anti-cheat/hack protection, its all totally worthless...

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roc
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 10:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

You must not forget to get the media involved (c-net, zd-net, abc, cbs,
post, times, etc..).  Only then will it truly work.

Happy Holidays

Andrew R. Mitcham wrote:

>I'm all for a shut down of my servers in protest. I think I have bitched
>and moaned about the negligence of VAC for years... and every time I do,
>someone says "Oh, they are working on it... be patient". 2 years
>later... MORE hackers than pre-steam.
>
>I participate in Steambans.com (I'm ranked #1 on there :D) which was
>great for a while. But now that I hear people can get a new STEAMID so
>easily, I have noticed return hackers... especially the ones that have
>the name changing script.
>
>While all of us stopping our servers for a day is a small percentage,
>I'm pretty sure we are the owners of some of the BETTER pubs out there.
>I know my CSDM server is hugely popular and its absence for a day would
>cause a lot of people to wonder. Multiply that by everyone on this list
>(OK, not everyone) it could cause a little publicity.
>
>We should email fan sites (csnation.net, hlfallout.net, halflife2.net,
>etc) and let them know that this event may occur and the reason why.
>
>Seriously, SOMETHING needs to be done and I won't take "someone is
>working on it" for an answer by someone who doesn't work for VALVe.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roc
>Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 10:25 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?
>
>IMO, this Friday is too soon, we need some organization and lots of
>folks (web sites) to spread the word
>
>Happy Holidays
>
>K. Mike Bradley wrote:
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>>It wont hurt and it mite send a message.
>>There has been a discussion for over 8 months now so that don't work
>>
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>...
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>>Show some solidarity admins!
>>
>>DO SOMETHING TO BREAK THE IMPASSE!
>>
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>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roc
>>Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 8:38 PM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?
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>>Thats just it, you won't hear a peep from them!  On a serious note, I
>>
>>
>am
>
>
>>open to "anything" that would work.
>>
>>Happy Holidays
>>
>>J Marcus wrote:
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>>>Nah that is not the answer..it would just help the empty servers. Why
>>>
>>>
>not
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>>>have a open discussion about it on this mailing list. Not looking to
>>>
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>go
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>>into
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>>>anything specific but to have absolutely no response or participation
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>in
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>>the
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>>>dialog from Valve just doesn't sit well with me. Or did I miss
>>>
>>>
>something..
>
>
>>>jefe
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roc
>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 6:00 PM
>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Subject: Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?
>>>
>>>Mike, a day is not enough, lets say a week!
>>>
>>>K. Mike Bradley wrote:
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>>>>If you server admins really wanted to do something stop your servers
>>>>
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>for
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>>>one
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>>>>day ... Lets say this Friday.
>>>>
>>>>See what Valve does then.
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