Makes sense, where the client is uploading packets to all those servers to ping them. I just adjusted my Steam->Internet setting down to 'ISDN 112k' (could also prolly do DSL > 256, but used ISDN to be safe), and am seeing much more reasonable numbers. Haven't found our specific server yet, but seeing tons more sub-100 ping servers.
Alfred, maybe on that Steam-->Internet dialog box it should explicitly tell clients to set that to their upload speed, not download speed? Currently it only says: "To provide the best possible gaming experience, Steam needs to know the approximate speed of your Internet connection". And it asks for "Internet connection speed" (most peeps know their connection speed as their download speed, and most connections are not symetrical). When i set that i was only thinking about gaming (becasue of the "best possible gaming experience" phrase), so set it to my download speed, not thinking about pinging servers and how it would affect that (most casual users wouldn't even know how it affects pinging even if they wanted to). So maybe the "Internet connection speed" on that dialog should be changed to "Internet upload speed"? Also, will setting that lower affect in-game performance, or does that setting pertain only to the steam client? I have all my rates turned up (maxed) in my config for CSS, and I've had mostly good performance with CSS, even with that >1Mb/s setting in the steam Internet dialog box (so I'm guessing it has little to do with the actual games?). No loss, little choke ever. Hitboxes seem to be ok for me, even though i hear a lot of peeps complain bout em (seems to me that when peeps miss a shot they like to blame the hitboxes). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 7:27 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] Server Listings > The upload speed is the important value. Specifically, we assume your > upload speed be the same as the value you selected in that drop down (as > does the game, it does NOT take into account any asymmetry in your > bandwidth). > > - Alfred > > ----Original Message---- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of artiecs Sent: > Tuesday, May 24, 2005 4:23 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Listings > > > I have a 4.4Mb/s connection, on which i can consistently download > > 500kB/s, so i have my client set to 'Lan/T1 > 1M'. And i see many > > server's who's pings are 20-50 show up in the main server list > > between 200 and 500. > > > > Do clients need to also take into account their upload speed when > > setting the Steam-->Internet setting? I only have 368kb/s upload so > > could that be part of the problem? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 3:28 PM > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Server Listings > > > > > > > Servers are stored in the master server in numerical order based > > > upon IP address. When a user requests a server list we start from > > > the clients IP address and move both up and down the list at the > > > same time (fanning out from their position in the list). For > > > example, if your IP address is > > > 80.1.1.1 then you get servers in the range 79.0.0.0 -> 81.0.0.0 > > > first, then 78.0.0.0->79.0.0.0 and 81.0.0.0->82.0.0.0 next time, > > > and so on. > > > > > > The server ping is based upon the client pinging each remote server. > > > IF they have the incorrect speed set in steam (under the > > > Settings->Internet dialog) then this could saturate their net > > > connection and cause the pings to be delayed. > > > > > > - Alfred > > > > > > ----Original Message---- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of paul Sent: > > > Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:24 AM To: 'hlds@list.valvesoftware.com' > > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Server Listings > > > > > > > Alfred > > > > > > > > Can you shed any light on my post about server listings please ? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: 24 May 2005 16:20 > > > > To: 'hlds@list.valvesoftware.com' > > > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Server Listings > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for that Grant > > > > Ignore the word Range , my mistake , all servers are on one IP > > > > address its a dedicated box that I rent from a server hosting > > > > company here in the UK so the IP address isnt going to change :) > > > > > > > > Keep em coming lads :) > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Suck. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: 24 May 2005 16:16 > > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Server Listings > > > > > > > > > > > > Paul: > > > > > > > > Building up server usage is something that takes a lot of work. > > > > Hell, we've got three servers and have been around since the beta, > > > > and since the winter holidays crowd has tapered off, we're still > > > > struggling getting that third to fill. > > > > > > > > It takes a while to build up a base of players that will regularly > > > > play on your server, so be patient. Also, people hate joining an > > > > empty server, so in order to start attracting players each day, > > > > you'll need to either use bots (not preferred), or have yourself > > > > or your admin(s) sit in the server to attract a crowd, or perhaps > > > > a combination of the two. Also, make sure that the map is set to > > > > one of the extremely popular stock maps, most likely dust or > > > > dust2. > > > > > > > > I don't know what to tell you about the ping issue, since it > > > > sounds like a problem with how STEAM is challenging your server. > > > > Do you know if the same issue occurs from other server lists, > > > > such as HLSW or web-based viewers? Another issue is that you > > > > mention an IP RANGE. This means you're not on a static IP, which > > > > is going to make it a LOT more difficult to build up a player > > > > base. If you're on someone's favorites list and your IP changes, > > > > your entry won't adjust and it'll show your server as dead. If > > > > you're serious about this, you need to consider getting a dynamic > > > > DNS and tying your server to it, so that there will be > > > > consistency there. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Grant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of paul > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 8:38 AM > > > > To: 'hlds@list.valvesoftware.com' > > > > Subject: [hlds] Server Listings > > > > > > > > Can any of you knowledgable guys provide an explanation please. > > > > Basically I am having difficulty getting my servers to fill up (or > > > > be used at all). Refreshing the main steam list does list my > > > > servers but no one seems to join. when I do a full refresh of the > > > > list there are quite a few servers listed with the correct ping > > > > for me , around 30 - 70. these servers all seem to have a low > > > > first Ip octet (around 80). The ip range of my servers starts at > > > > 217. Could this have an effect? > > > > > > > > Not sure what to do , I have fiddled with loads of things and > > > > nothing has made a difference. (sv_region is set to 3 ) > > > > > > > > Also does anyone know how the master list is organised when > > > > someone refreshes it , is it done by lowest IP address first , > > > > which might explain the ping to lower IP servers being better and > > > > therefore filling up. > > > > > > > > TA > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > archives, please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > archives, please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > archives, please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > archives, please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
