ER, all I can say is that as a server op, obviously I would like to put my server at the top of the list every time.
HOWEVER, as a player I would be ABSOLUTELY LIVID if such a service was made available, even if the price was PREMIUM (arguably, the worst possible eventuality) as that's exactly the kind of crap that destroys communities. My servers come top of MY lists because they have a LOW PING. Other than that I LEAVE IT TO THE USER'S PREFERENCE. Sorry, feel quite strongly about this one. Classical American style: "I'll scratch your back if you'll make my stuff look like the best thing since sliced bread, there's no need to mention ethics or truth" Maybe what you really want is a way of sorting by server performance (at least then it's kinda fair - you make a good server, more clients use it). Performance from low to high subscriber rates is hard though, as clearly one can optimise for a range of possible loads. Some other titles have started indicating the processor load and network load along with their server browser tools, however these don't cover step-lag from things like VPS solutions, which are often hosted in DC's too. There is no winner here, so there's no point in changing things. On 7/27/05, Andrew Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have the list sort by ping by default. > > Not servername, otherwise the idiots with 200 spaces in front of their > servername get seen at the top. > > Not randomized, because I dont want to see a random list, I go straight to > filter by ping - Just do it that way! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 1:09 AM > Subject: RE: [hlds] The logic behind steams server browser is incorrect from > eupe. > > > > It's a constant battle to fight this method of IP preferencing but in the > > first 5 seconds of your video....long live Dallas Killzone : > [RaynServ.Com] > > > > Heh heh > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan Barker > > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:27 AM > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Subject: Re: [hlds] The logic behind steams server browser is incorrect > from > > eupe. > > > > The IP fanning method in action: > > http://pub-i.com/misc/jjb/cs1.wmv (sorry, made this video a while back > > and WME's desktop recorder was the only thing handy) > > > > I'm in chicago, basically you see it find a few random servers around > > the midwest, and then take a global (minute long) detour pinging servers > > in europe/etc to little or no avail, and then finally bring back some of > > the nicer datacenter servers in the 2xx. range ... > > > > The speed improves a lot if I restrict the region, but not many think to > > do that ... > > > > (To get that ip address field just right click one of the column titles) > > > > I'm not really sure what can be done about this > > > > Encourage clients to set the region filter somehow? > > -though I understand the region settings aren't quite fine-grained > > enough for some parts of the world. > > > > Apply favortism to known datacenter-owned subnets? > > -good for datacenters .. > > > > Randomize it? > > -I guess that's somewhat fair ... > > > > Hmm > > > > > > Ian mu wrote: > > > when you do a refresh, right click on a server and view server info > > > and check the IP address. Mine are all 81.x.x.x and 82.x.x.x, my IP is > > > 81.x.x.x. They "look" as though they are in order of latency, but > > > thats not the whole picture. > > > > > > It's a fairly well known issue, and some ISPs have even been changing > > > their ip:ports where possible to get further up the list for more > > > people. > > > > > > Absolutely crazy design that whoever designed should be shot for. > > > > > > On 7/27/05, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>doesnt with me, just when ever i click on the latency to sort it > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > >>From: "Clayton Macleod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > > >>Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:59 PM > > >>Subject: Re: [hlds] The logic behind steams server browser is incorrect > > from > > >>eupe. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>um, doesn't it default to sorting by ping/latency? Does here. > > >>> > > >>>On 7/27/05, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>>The logic is incorrect. > > >>>>According to alfred, the servers closest to your IP display first. > > >>>>For example i have 80.0.0.1, and a server 80.0.0.2 then that server > will > > >>>>show first. > > >>>>Allthought here in most parts of eurpe, client IPs start mostly with > > >>>>6x.xx.xx.xx or 8x.xx.xx.xx (8x is most commen). > > >>>>But all the data centers server providers have other ranges (mostly > > >>>>2xx.xx.xx.xx) Meaning the servers being most close to us, actually > dont > > >>>>get > > >>>>listen on top as they should be (best performance/pings 1st). > > >>>> > > >>>>Saint K. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>_______________________________________________ > > >>>>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > >>>>please visit: > > >>>>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>-- > > >>>Clayton Macleod > > >>> > > >>>_______________________________________________ > > >>>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > >>>please visit: > > >>>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >> > > >> > > >>_______________________________________________ > > >>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > >>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
