Shawn, Yep, if all you are talking about is the rollback, obviously. You acted like, however, that anyone with 64bit boxes should expect NO support, thats simply not the case.
On top of that, the only way they are going to get any decent support is by making is as easy as possible for Valve to find/fix the problems that are bound to pop up. Which means, posting here with debug info or bug behavior. They have to post that here, or I suppose they could send it directly to Alfred and waste his time, if it's something someone on this list could have answered. As someone else pointed out, "unsupported" doesnt mean "no support". Valve is pretty good about that, I must say. Anyway, sorry I came off a little hostile, but it just pisses me off to no end when people post here for help or to explain what they see happening on their servers, and 1-2 people always have to tell them how stupid they are for asking, they should go away, etc. -Smurf Message: 7 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 03:35:59 -0400 From: Shawn Zipay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Roll back on client Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com FFS. All I said was that x64 is not supported by Valve. Meaning they don't have to rollback anything for an operating system that they do not officially support. I know they are looking into 64 bit extentions, but that does not mean they are officially offering technical support or offering ANY promises that their product will work on that OS. Post about the problem, that's fine. But to request a roll back for everybody just because a few people are having problems? No. That is the only point that I've made throughout this entire 'childish' back and forth here in front of all. This also isn't an issue about beta software. Steam isn't in beta, it's like in perpetual "gone gold" status since it's always being updated. There will never be a finalized version of it and I'm sure most everybody has accepted that by now. My beta comment earlier was only made to illustrate a point about how absurd it is to complain about beta software when something goes wrong just as it's absurd to complain or demand a rollback when something goes wrong with unsupported software. Does that clear a bit up? _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
