Why not simply NOT allow uploads of sprays directly to the Server.  But
allow Sprays to download after prior approval.  Set up a area where people
can send Sprays for Preview prior to loading on Server.  Enough said... As
long as someone out there wants Porn as a Spray... they will surely find a
server that does not block it...

I do have a couple kids playing on my Server and some of thier parents have
talk to me.  They realize I actively Ban any and all Porn Sprayers.. and
they respect the fact Porn is an automatic BAN, I do check, more work but
try to maintain a clean server.

So the Parents do not hold me accountable for what someone else does....
They respect the fact I do take an action to eliminate it..

Thoughts on the Matter...


----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control


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end!!! your asking how to access child porn hrmmm? fbi needs to visit your
house....

On 10/17/05, Mahmoud Foda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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How the hell do you get child porn? I've never heard of that at all. I
mean
i'm sure it happens but wow. I didn't know it was rampet.

On 10/16/05, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
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> James, that is why we have disabled sprays completely.
> It really is just not worth the hassle for something so peripheral to
the
> game.
>
> On 10/17/05, James McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > In this day and age, it's no different than owning a bar and allowing
> > minors
> > to drink. Who get's worked over in the long run? I could download all
> the
> > mods in the world to help me track them down... but if at 3am, when
all
> my
> > admins are asleep, and the server is still full... there's not always
> > someone to investigate who's posting what. If some kid is playing,
> > and
> > consertative mom walks in and see's some 13 year old spread on the
> screen,
> > she may take a negative interest in my establishment. It becomes my
> fault,
> > because I provided the place for that content to be displayed.
> >
> > --
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > James McKenna
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:44 AM
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control
> >
> >
> > > Well I don't see how the server owner can be sued and forced to
> > > take
> > away
> > > every players ability to express theirself "in a good manner"
through
> > > sprays. Only thing he really can do is ban them from that server. I
> > really
> > > do not see any grounds for him to be sued being that he has taken
> action
> > > against them by banning them.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ben Elvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:46 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control
> > >
> > >
> > >>I totally agree - doesn't a multiplayer game involve social
> interaction?
> > >> Why would the same rules about normal social interaction not
> > >> apply?
> Why
> > >> would the fact that you communicate and interact through a game
> > >> environment
> > >> across the internet rather than face to face change the normal
rules
> of
> > >> etiquette, sportsmanship and politeness?
> > >>
> > >> It is because some people like acting like thugs - and in this
> > >> environment
> > >> they can get away with it.
> > >>
> > >> And let's be honest here - the chap is talking about CHILD PORN
> sprays.
> > >> Which of you think that behaviour like that is acceptable in ANY
> > >> circumstance?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stalker333
> > >> Sent: 16 October 2005 09:33
> > >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > >> Subject: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control
> > >>
> > >> Whisper,
> > >>
> > >> I agree, this "it's just a game" excuse crap is about as lame as
> > >> it
> > >> gets! Its the same thing as when you call in to get help with your
> > >> credit card, computer, etc, and they act like assholes. They do it
> > >> because they can get away with it, usually, and love to be idiots
and
> > >> mean to others. It's a mental issue these people have. Don't get
> > >> yourself worked up over it, just ignore the idgits.
> > >>
> > >> -TheJointChief
> > >> AKA StonedSmurf
> > >>
> > >> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:08:44 +1000
> > >> From: Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Child porn sprays are out of control
> > >> Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > >>
> > >> --
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> > >> How does the "It's just a game" statement justify any of the
mulitude
> > of
> > >> transgressions one can accomplish in these games, just because
> > >> they
> > can.
> > >> Why is acceptable to do something online that would not be
acceptable
> > >> offline? I am aware of why people do it, but there is no rationale
> that
> > I
> > >> have seen anybody put forward thus far, that can possibily justify
> any
> > of
> > >> it.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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