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I've also been using zBlock (max) since its release with no issues on 5
different servers: CSS, DODS, HL2DM, HL2CTF, GES.  Thanks for the great
plugin.

On 4/12/06, Wim Barelds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Could you give me the specifics of the servers you run? Since the plugin
> is
> required in several leagues and I have yet to hear a single complaint
> about
> crashing, it's likely a platform specific issue. Having more information
> about the systems that it seems to have issues with would help me towards
> possibly finding / fixing the issue.
>
> As for error handling, it's hard to 'handle an error'
> that, as far as I'm aware, isn't even occuring. Ask other server
> providers such as Whisper, he'll also tell you that zBlock runs
> perfectly stable.
>
>
> On 4/13/06, Ian mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > You're welcome to that feedback. I'm just giving mine from people who
> have
> > no idea what the error messages are as they give no indication that its
> > zblock at fault. Hence probably why no-one thinks there's any problem
> with
> > it and why you think everything is good (always cunning).
> >
> > 90% of the people we get coming to us think its Valve, as soon as we
> > remove
> > zblock its fine. Now that _could_ be outdated versions, but 1) it
> > shouldn't
> > make the server crash under _any_ circumstances and 2) you should give a
> > clear indication its zblock and not some random error that takes mind
> > readers to figure and not Valve.
> >
> > You really do neither properly.
> >
> > Fortunately for us, we are now used to the problems with zblock after so
> > many occurances with its errors and can relatively quickly point people
> in
> > the right direction to the best fix.
> >
> >
> > On 4/13/06, Wim Barelds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > So far, i'v only seen people have problems with outdated versions of
> > > zblock,
> > > beyond that, I have yet to receive any real negative feedback. With
> most
> > > european leagues using it, both australian leagues using it, and next
> > > season
> > > of CAL using it's codebase, I can definitely say that the good
> feedback
> > > easily outweighs the bad.
> > >
> > > On 4/13/06, Ian mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
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> > > > Heh, someone who admits to being co-creator of zblock? Had so many
> > > fecking
> > > > issues from people using zblock breaking servers its not funny.
> First
> > > > thing
> > > > we do now when there's a problem with someone screwing up a server
> is
> > > ask
> > > > if
> > > > someone has added zblock, 99% of the time its yes and the fix is
> > almost
> > > > instant, no doubt people can guess what that is.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 4/13/06, Wim Barelds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > Somehow this was helping the manimod server plugin support custom
> > > player
> > > > > skins, cl_min_t and cl_min_ct used to be forced to 4 (since there
> > > > weren't
> > > > > 4
> > > > > skins back than, this wasnt an
> > > > > issue), now because a 4th skin exists, this issue arises.
> > > > >
> > > > > @ Alfred:
> > > > > As co-creator of zBlock I have obvious intrest in being abled to
> > > change
> > > > a
> > > > > players settings, something that would be ideal, or beyond ideal
> :),
> > > is
> > > > if
> > > > > the server can have a convar list thats enforced on clients that
> > > > connect,
> > > > > these would be temporary and disabled as soon as the player leaves
> > the
> > > > > server. If you wan't more of an explanation of how I imagine this,
> > > i'll
> > > > > email you directly, or send it here, whichever works best.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 4/13/06, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The cvar is being slammed to 1 by several 3rd party plugins (I
> am
> > > not
> > > > > sure
> > > > > > why), and once it is set the setting stays with you until you
> > > manually
> > > > > > change it. We are looking at ways of preventing plugins for
> > breaking
> > > > > clients
> > > > > > like this but in the meantime please review any plugins you have
> > > > > installed
> > > > > > and make sure they do not do this behavior.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Alfred
> > > > > >
> > > > > > artiecs wrote:
> > > > > > > I don't think it's the server's Alfred. I was seeing this
> > problem
> > > > > > > (one model
> > > > > > > per team only) on our server immediately after the update.
> Found
> > > the
> > > > > > > cl_minmodels 0 fix in the steam forums, and since i've changed
> > it
> > > to
> > > > > > > 0 I've rejoined our server several times and all the models
> > > display
> > > > > > > fine without
> > > > > > > having to re-enter the cvar manually each time i rejoin. So it
> > > > > > > doesn't look
> > > > > > > like the server's forcing a cvar change. Looks more like the
> > > update
> > > > is
> > > > > > > forcing the cl_minmodels cvar to 1 on clients when they get
> > todays
> > > > > > > update,
> > > > > > > and once it's changed back to 0 it's fine from there.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Artie
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 5:33 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source update released
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So it looks like some servers are forcing cl_minmodels to one,
> > and
> > > > > > > when you
> > > > > > > join servers after that you only see the two models. The work
> > > around
> > > > > > > for now
> > > > > > > is to manually reset that cvar.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Alfred
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > milchworld wrote:
> > > > > > >> seems to be cl_minmodels 1 default now !?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Alfred Reynolds schrieb:
> > > > > > >>> Remove any plugins you have and see if that fixes the
> problem.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> - Alfred
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Andreas Grimm wrote:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> Im server admin and got the same problem ...
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Update is up to date and on all servers (linux and windows)
> > and
> > > > the
> > > > > > >>>> models are only Guerrilla and GIGN
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > > > > >>>> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von
> > > Alfred
> > > > > > >>>> Reynolds Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. April 2006 23:00
> > > > > > >>>> An: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > > > > >>>> Betreff: RE: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source update released
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> I don't see that on the handful of servers I sampled. Make
> > sure
> > > > you
> > > > > > >>>> are joining an updated server.
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> - Alfred
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Stuart Stegall wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> All terrorists appear as Guerrilla and all
> > counter-terrorists
> > > > > > >>>>> appear as GIGN no matter what is selected.
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> Alfred Reynolds wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> An update to Counter-Strike: Source has been released. To
> > get
> > > > the
> > > > > > >>>>>> update run the hldsupdatetool.
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> This update brings HDR to de_dust and adds two new player
> > > > > > >>>>>> models, the GSG9 and Arctic.
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> - Alfred
> > > > > > >>>>>>
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