-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I've also been using zBlock (max) since its release with no issues on 5 different servers: CSS, DODS, HL2DM, HL2CTF, GES. Thanks for the great plugin.
On 4/12/06, Wim Barelds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Could you give me the specifics of the servers you run? Since the plugin > is > required in several leagues and I have yet to hear a single complaint > about > crashing, it's likely a platform specific issue. Having more information > about the systems that it seems to have issues with would help me towards > possibly finding / fixing the issue. > > As for error handling, it's hard to 'handle an error' > that, as far as I'm aware, isn't even occuring. Ask other server > providers such as Whisper, he'll also tell you that zBlock runs > perfectly stable. > > > On 4/13/06, Ian mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > You're welcome to that feedback. I'm just giving mine from people who > have > > no idea what the error messages are as they give no indication that its > > zblock at fault. Hence probably why no-one thinks there's any problem > with > > it and why you think everything is good (always cunning). > > > > 90% of the people we get coming to us think its Valve, as soon as we > > remove > > zblock its fine. Now that _could_ be outdated versions, but 1) it > > shouldn't > > make the server crash under _any_ circumstances and 2) you should give a > > clear indication its zblock and not some random error that takes mind > > readers to figure and not Valve. > > > > You really do neither properly. > > > > Fortunately for us, we are now used to the problems with zblock after so > > many occurances with its errors and can relatively quickly point people > in > > the right direction to the best fix. > > > > > > On 4/13/06, Wim Barelds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > -- > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > So far, i'v only seen people have problems with outdated versions of > > > zblock, > > > beyond that, I have yet to receive any real negative feedback. With > most > > > european leagues using it, both australian leagues using it, and next > > > season > > > of CAL using it's codebase, I can definitely say that the good > feedback > > > easily outweighs the bad. > > > > > > On 4/13/06, Ian mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > -- > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > Heh, someone who admits to being co-creator of zblock? Had so many > > > fecking > > > > issues from people using zblock breaking servers its not funny. > First > > > > thing > > > > we do now when there's a problem with someone screwing up a server > is > > > ask > > > > if > > > > someone has added zblock, 99% of the time its yes and the fix is > > almost > > > > instant, no doubt people can guess what that is. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/13/06, Wim Barelds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > > Somehow this was helping the manimod server plugin support custom > > > player > > > > > skins, cl_min_t and cl_min_ct used to be forced to 4 (since there > > > > weren't > > > > > 4 > > > > > skins back than, this wasnt an > > > > > issue), now because a 4th skin exists, this issue arises. > > > > > > > > > > @ Alfred: > > > > > As co-creator of zBlock I have obvious intrest in being abled to > > > change > > > > a > > > > > players settings, something that would be ideal, or beyond ideal > :), > > > is > > > > if > > > > > the server can have a convar list thats enforced on clients that > > > > connect, > > > > > these would be temporary and disabled as soon as the player leaves > > the > > > > > server. If you wan't more of an explanation of how I imagine this, > > > i'll > > > > > email you directly, or send it here, whichever works best. > > > > > > > > > > On 4/13/06, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The cvar is being slammed to 1 by several 3rd party plugins (I > am > > > not > > > > > sure > > > > > > why), and once it is set the setting stays with you until you > > > manually > > > > > > change it. We are looking at ways of preventing plugins for > > breaking > > > > > clients > > > > > > like this but in the meantime please review any plugins you have > > > > > installed > > > > > > and make sure they do not do this behavior. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Alfred > > > > > > > > > > > > artiecs wrote: > > > > > > > I don't think it's the server's Alfred. I was seeing this > > problem > > > > > > > (one model > > > > > > > per team only) on our server immediately after the update. > Found > > > the > > > > > > > cl_minmodels 0 fix in the steam forums, and since i've changed > > it > > > to > > > > > > > 0 I've rejoined our server several times and all the models > > > display > > > > > > > fine without > > > > > > > having to re-enter the cvar manually each time i rejoin. So it > > > > > > > doesn't look > > > > > > > like the server's forcing a cvar change. Looks more like the > > > update > > > > is > > > > > > > forcing the cl_minmodels cvar to 1 on clients when they get > > todays > > > > > > > update, > > > > > > > and once it's changed back to 0 it's fine from there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Artie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 5:33 PM > > > > > > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source update released > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So it looks like some servers are forcing cl_minmodels to one, > > and > > > > > > > when you > > > > > > > join servers after that you only see the two models. The work > > > around > > > > > > > for now > > > > > > > is to manually reset that cvar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Alfred > > > > > > > > > > > > > > milchworld wrote: > > > > > > >> seems to be cl_minmodels 1 default now !? > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Alfred Reynolds schrieb: > > > > > > >>> Remove any plugins you have and see if that fixes the > problem. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> - Alfred > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Andreas Grimm wrote: > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>>> Im server admin and got the same problem ... > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Update is up to date and on all servers (linux and windows) > > and > > > > the > > > > > > >>>> models are only Guerrilla and GIGN > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > > > > > >>>> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von > > > Alfred > > > > > > >>>> Reynolds Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. April 2006 23:00 > > > > > > >>>> An: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > > > > > >>>> Betreff: RE: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source update released > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> I don't see that on the handful of servers I sampled. Make > > sure > > > > you > > > > > > >>>> are joining an updated server. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> - Alfred > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Stuart Stegall wrote: > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>>> All terrorists appear as Guerrilla and all > > counter-terrorists > > > > > > >>>>> appear as GIGN no matter what is selected. > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> Alfred Reynolds wrote: > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> An update to Counter-Strike: Source has been released. To > > get > > > > the > > > > > > >>>>>> update run the hldsupdatetool. > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> This update brings HDR to de_dust and adds two new player > > > > > > >>>>>> models, the GSG9 and Arctic. > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> - Alfred > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > > > > > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > > list > > > > > > >>>>>> archives, please visit: > > > > > > >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > > > > > > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > list > > > > > > >>>>> archives, please visit: > > > > > > >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > > > > > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > list > > > > > > >>>> archives, please visit: > > > > > > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > > > > > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > list > > > > > > >>>> archives, please visit: > > > > > > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > > > > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > > > >>> archives, please visit: > > > > > > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > > > >> archives, please visit: > > > > > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > archives, > > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > > > > archives, please visit: > > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds