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"It's simple, a cheat is anything that gives one player an advantage over
another. I am sure we can all agree that is fact."

Yeah, completely out of context, right? But all you can do is resort to is
personal attacks, because you lack any kind of real arguement. Way to go.

On 5/15/06, Brian M Frain (eternal) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Ok so now we get the less cordial people coming in and voicing their
> opinions.
> Nice job people, it isn't like the conversation was hurting you.
> I am the one who said that a cheat is something that gives one player an
> advantage over another and you successfully took my statement completely
> out
> of context. Kudos to you and your exemplary social skills, especially
> where
> you say "I didnt read ALL the replies" are you related to the George Bush
> perhaps?
>
>
>
> On 5/15/06, Gerald Hefty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Hahaha, I think it's real funny that people are debating what 'cheating'
> > is,
> > and someone even said that 'anything that gives an advantage to one
> player
> > over another is a cheat.' That's funny. It's like saying someone is
> > cheating
> > because they have a 7900GT and you only have a GeForce 2, and him
> getting
> > more frames than you is an unfair advantage, thus he's cheating. Good
> > stuff.
> >
> > I didn't read ALL of the replies of this topic, but it sounds like the
> > script is pretty useless. Nobody has ever heard of hud_fastswitch 1? You
> > press 1,2,3,4 for all of your different items(weapons), and you have
> more
> > control over it than some script.
> >
> > Weaksauce.
> >
> > On 5/15/06, Bud Ingram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry, but in my opinion, many of you are being quite ignorant.
> > >
> > > I am missing three of my fingers on my left hand.  Convince me that I
> > > SHOULDN'T use scripts to help me out.  You're all assuming that
> everyone
> > > is
> > > "normal" with 10 fully-functioning digits and two fully-functioning
> > > eyeballs.  Well to heck with it! If someone wants to ride around in a
> > > wheel
> > > chair but are perfectly capable of walking, I don't care, do
> you?  What
> > > does
> > > it really matter?  A script isn't going to help that much anyway --
> > > whoever
> > > said "a script doesn't miss keys" well you bind it to something,
> > > right?  You
> > > could just as easily miss that key as any other (trust me on this
> one).
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Bud Ingram
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Brian M Frain (eternal)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 12:03 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Fast Weapon Scripts what to do
> > >
> > >
> > > > --
> > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > > It's simple, a cheat is anything that gives one player an advantage
> > over
> > > > another. I am sure we can all agree that is fact.
> > > >
> > > > Now we can assume that like everything in life the hl2 code isn't
> > > perfect
> > > > and there are ways to use the tools we have been given in ways that
> > are
> > > > not
> > > > intended (the wallhack using cvars comes to mind). I am sure that
> the
> > > > creators of the game did not intend for people to be able to make no
> > > > recoil
> > > > cheats. Considering the stance they have taken on cheating I am sure
> > we
> > > > all
> > > > agree that is a fair statement. Scripts are also nothing more than a
> > > > manipulation of variables automated for our gaming pleasure. It is
> > these
> > > > variables that are the actual cheats but it is the scripts that are
> > the
> > > > catalyst. It's like one is the bullet and one is the gun. They work
> > > > together
> > > > to get the result.
> > > > The argument that it is there for everyone has no basis in reality.
> We
> > > all
> > > > may have the possibility to create a cheat such as this but the
> > average
> > > > player does not have the knowledge necessary to create the cheat. We
> > all
> > > > have the option of being rocket scientists but not everyone follows
> > that
> > > > path. It's like talking to a little kid and all he says is "well
> what
> > > if"
> > > > over and over to every response.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 5/15/06, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >>
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> > > >> It must be wonderful living in a world of black and white absolutes
> > > >>
> > > >> At least it is obvious why some of you are in IT
> > > >>
> > > >> Every choice is ultimately either 1 or 0
> > > >>
> > > >> :)
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On 5/16/06, Brian M Frain (eternal) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > --
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> > > >> > That statement is just ridiculous, that is like saying guns don't
> > > kill
> > > >> > people, people kill people. I couldn't get in a server and use a
> no
> > > >> recoil
> > > >> > script WITHOUT THE SCRIPT!!!
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On 5/15/06, Edward Luna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Lets not confuse a "cheat" which may use a script to work it's
> > > evil,
> > > >> > with
> > > >> > > the script itself.  A script combines functions bound to
> keys...
> > it
> > > >> > cannot
> > > >> > > execute any command the server admin hasn't allowed.  If
> someone
> > is
> > > >> > using
> > > >> > > scripts to execute cheats, then he is a cheater but the script
> > > isn't
> > > >> > > a
> > > >> > > cheat... the script only put the keystrokes together.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Peace...
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > From: Hell Phoenix [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >> > > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 10:34 AM
> > > >> > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > >> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Fast Weapon Scripts what to do
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Your kidding right?  I know of a forum dedicated to scripting
> > > cheats.
> > > >> > > So a no-recoil script isnt hacking?  Whats your server address
> so
> > I
> > > >> can
> > > >> > > come use some scripts on it.  By your definition I am not
> > > >> cheating...Im
> > > >> > > just using scripts.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Chris McCoy wrote:
> > > >> > > > Well, that's great and all... but, "they don't miss
> opponents?"
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Sorry, scripts can't aim at opponents.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > You guys make it sound like scripts are the ultimate cheater
> > > tools.
> > > >> > > Scripts
> > > >> > > > are nothing more than an extention to a players ability.
> > Scripts
> > > >> help
> > > >> > > them
> > > >> > > > do small things a little bit faster.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Tell me one "cheat" use that a script has, and I'll tell you
> > > you're
> > > >> > full
> > > >> > > of
> > > >> > > > it.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >> Message: 4
> > > >> > > >> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 13:51:54 +0200
> > > >> > > >> From: "]FUSION[ Gray Death" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >> > > >> To:  hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > >> > > >> Subject: [hlds] Fast Weapon Scripts what to do?
> > > >> > > >> Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >>> So where is the advantage to the script?  None really,
> beyond
> > > >> > personal
> > > >> > > >>>
> > > >> > > > preference.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >> So you say aimbots are fine? Because they just aim and
> > everyone
> > > >> > > >> can
> > > >> > do
> > > >> > > >> this with a mouse? I don't think that. Scripts are better
> then
> > > >> > humans,
> > > >> > > >> they are faster, they don't miss opponents and they don't
> miss
> > > >> keys.
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> With kind regards,
> > > >> > > >> ]FUSION[ Gray Death
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
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