i GUESS together with the sdk update (there was a 2 seconds css update !?).
hlstatsx analyses the log-files and lists all vac-banned. there are 18
today for my server. only 2-5 per day the last week!
a new cheat detected? or so many people using a detected old cheat?
Leopard
Whisper schrieb:
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For those that pay attention to when VAC is updated, when was it last
updated?
On 8/8/06, Roman Hatsiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
For such cases there is always a demo at hand while I'm speaking about
obvious cheaters like those who track a target through the wall - very
attractive movie for the public! Like this one -
http://public.otstrel.ru/otstrel/private/demo3.avi (6MB)
Regards.
On 07/08/06, Ryan Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
movies also introduce editing, and sometimes the lack of ingame sound
which
can make the 'movie' bias. i would say watching the demo is
better 'proof'
so to speak than a movie.lots of people get lucky, lots of people have
good
headphones, a movie can make anyone look like a cheater.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roman Hatsiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC in CSS.
Not sure what it looks like in Shared bans but we do have similar
project here in Russia and mandatory requirement to add new ban into
system is that you must have a proof of cheating - demo file,
preferably with movies illustrating the reason. By the way - movies
really help to increase people's confidence in project since very few
players are really willing to download demo files and watch them
trying to recognise cheats while movies are very visual and easy to
understand proofs.
Regards.
On 07/08/06, Alex Dignam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There is one downside to Shared bans... say for example the Admin on
a
server with shared bans has the mental age of a 5 year old, and
decides
to
ban you, you havnt done anything wrong yet as well as being banned
from
1
server your banned from all servers with shared bans, you havnt done
anything wrong, and your banned.. how nice
From: Dave Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC in CSS.
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 13:24:48 +0100
vac is inadequate and does need help. I run steambans which does
help
keep the cheaters out especially now they have merged with
sharedbans.
The problem with vac is that it's a stationary target. the code has
been
set and hasn't been updated. Streambans on the other hand is
constantly
being developed to improve it.
In short. if you are having problems with vac give it a bit of help
and
look at www.steambans.com
Wayne wrote:
A question for fellow Admins.
Where I am a volunteer server Admin we have 33 CSS servers which
are
very
well frequented and extremely active.
We have a server watch program running that alerts us to the
presence of
troublesome players, or players we know to have been caught
cheating
off
our
servers.
We run a strict policy of not banning people who did not cheat
on
our
servers; this policy will NOT be changing, so please no
statements
about
changing it, thanks.
We also have a fairly robust reporting system for
trouble/cheating/suspect
players, which often gets additions from servers we do not run,
i.e.
from
other ISPs etc, these are added to our server watch but NOT
banned.
What is currently troubling me is the overall effectiveness of
VAC,
several
players who were submitted to us for cheating, though our
reporting
system,
who were BLATANTLY cheating, but on another server, have NOT
been
picked
up
by VAC.
Even demos of the most blatant aimbot use have gone undetected
by
VAC,
months down the track, these players are not cheating on our
servers
at
this
point in time, but where is the effectiveness of VAC?
I'm left wondering if there is that much effectiveness in it,
why we
continue to secure our servers, when even the most blatant
cheating
is
getting by.
There is currently a wave of releases coming from the makers,
multihacks
that boast almost all cheats possible, fully configurable and
adjustable,
all boasting the fact they are yet to be detected by VAC.
Even after the sites have been e-mailed directly to Alfred, to
be
forwarded
onto the proper department.
Have VALVe moved on from CSS already, are we left with a game so
riddled
with cheating it is pointless trying to stop them, when it only
costs
$20
Aus to just grab another CDKEY, in the event VAC actually
catches
them?
I am not anti-VAC, just anti being hung out to dry.
Thoughts?
D1
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