-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] SourceMM is NOT the cause of any problems with plugins. SourceMM is mod independant and is rarely affected by updates.
The problem occurs for plugins that use the server binaries directly instead of going through either the Valve Server Plugin interface or the SourceMM plugin interface. You might say, "then don't use the binaries directly" like that. Here's why plugins do that: Let's take "slap" for example. It does three things: 1) remove health 2) knock the player around, and 3) play a "grunt" sound. 1 and 2 are NOT possible using the provided server interface. If you want a slap function in your admin plugin, you must use a plugin that directly links to the binaries. Basically, if you use a plugin that does anything besides recording stats, running server console commands, and using ESC menus that players don't see, you'll be using a plugin that does not conform to the server plugin interface. Grant (L. Duke) On 8/27/06, Chris McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You know what? Developers of plug-ins know that they can make a simple > admin > mod (kick, ban, tk) without any of the fancy stuff (stats, xp, whatever) > by > using the SDK API. Or maybe they don't. They know that their users (all > of > us) would love something like this, but they continue to use SourceMM. How > hard would it be for them to simply throw out a generic admin mod that > they > never have to touch again, just for those of us that don't want some fancy > plug-in. > > If someone would just make that plugin, there'd be no more problems. No > one > would have any reason to ask Valve to do any of this stupid stuff. > > We already have what we _really_ need. No one cares enough to use it. And > until they do, everybody's going to complain about the provided API not > being enough. > > No one has to deal with Steam update patch breaks, but they choose to use > plug-ins that they know are going to break. > There's an alternative and you know it, so stop complaining. > > > -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds