I was 22 when Neil took that first small step (which was more like a jump). :)
-----Original Message----- From: Ook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 10:36 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6 I remember very well watching the first moon landing on our black & white tube TV. But I think you might have me beat by a few years LOL. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Luna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 7:34 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6 > By many years... rofl. Lets put it this way... when I was a kid we > listened to radio because there were very few televisions. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 10:01 AM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6 > > > Can ya beat 42?? > > :) > >> >> From: "Edward Luna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: 2006/12/09 Sat AM 06:28:24 CST >> To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> >> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6 >> >> "... waffling more than John Kerry." ROFL! >> >> Okay... seriously now. I've seen this all before and you guys are 100% >> correct to be concerned but you're also spitting into the wind. The >> times they are a changin and in-game adds are comin. To quote a phrase >> oft used by one incredibly sexy ex-Borg... "resistance is futile". >> >> I'm a bit older then; well... all of you (hehehe), and I lived through >> this before. No, not adds in movie theaters... that was relatively >> recent... I'm talking about Cable Television. Back in the dark ages >> (before computers) there was but a handful of channels, available only >> via "Rabbit Ears" or an antennae on your roof. Then one day someone >> mentioned that we would soon be introduced to something called Cable >> Television and that we would have to pay a monthly fee to watch TV. The >> world laughed out loud at such a ridiculous concept... "Pay to watch the >> television I already paid for?... Not on your life"! Or so we thought. >> >> Now don't get me wrong... you can still use an antenna if you want, but >> who among us really wants to go back to 7 snowy channels spewing forth >> the party line when we can have hundreds of crystal clear channels with >> something that fits just about every taste and style? >> >> Remember... when your done changing, you're done. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [DMA]RocketUSA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 4:03 PM >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6 >> >> >> IF this all is true, Valve is waffling more than John Kerry. Think about >> this. They disable the content server loading banner for all of us that >> provide servers for this game, AT NO CHARGE TO THEM, and now they see >> that >> they can make revenue off of not just that but IN GAME also so it's o.k.? >> >> I'm not liking this ride if it's true. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 1:08 PM >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6 >> >> Some of you seem to "get it". For the others, corporations are all about >> making money and they will continually try to come up with ways to make >> more. As long as what they do continues to make them money (or in this >> case >> even more money), they will not change. They would not implement a change >> unless they believed that their gains (in advertising revenues) would >> outweigh any losses (in gamers). Alot of people like to play this game >> and >> will continue to play no matter what. Most GSP's will continue to host >> until >> they are no longer making money. In the end, its a waiting game. Does >> their >> gamble pay off or not? Only the players, the GSP's and time will tell. >> >> Me? I shut my server down. Time to move on to another game and see if I >> can >> find some of the fun that I use to have playing CS. >> >> Just my .02 >> > >> > From: Wojciech H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Date: 2006/12/08 Fri AM 11:28:57 CST >> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6 >> > >> > In game ads have already been done, and Valve is just following the >> > 'trend' I guess. For instance, BF2142 has in game ads, and a lot of >> > people did not buy the game based on it. >> > >> > I think some arguments for having in game advertising is to pay for >> > maintaining: the games, the update system, the many more updates/addons >> > that people have started to expect, the master server lists, etc. >> > >> > >> > Dan E wrote: >> > > As far as region specific, don't you specify what >> > > language you speak when you install Steam? >> > > >> > > I'm personally ticked off that they want us to look at >> > > ads in a game which we have already paid for. A demo >> > > I can understand, but this is just rediculous. >> > > >> > > --- Steven Hartland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > >> This brings some interesting questions: >> > >> * How are they going the ensure the adds are region >> > >> specific >> > >> This is required to ensure that the language is >> > >> correct and >> > >> local laws adhered to. >> > >> * How are they going to deal with the case that the >> > >> ad's >> > >> may go against sponsorship deals for the servers or >> > >> tournaments etc. >> > >> >> > >> Its not going to go down well if a Intel sponsored >> > >> tourney >> > >> started displaying adds for AMD processors in the >> > >> middle >> > >> of the match. >> > >> >> > >> By the same reasoning if provider X started >> > >> advertising >> > >> and this where to show up on provider Y's servers >> > >> they >> > >> would be understandably pissed. >> > >> >> > >> These are just two logistical issues which spring to >> > >> mind. >> > >> >> > >> Steve >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> ================================================ >> > >> This e.mail is private and confidential between >> > >> Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom >> > >> it is addressed. 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