Eric - That is completely fair, but, at least enforce something client
side if you're making a definitive decision on this. There are like 5
32x servers on the internet tab, and that number will only grow. I'm
tempted to join them, if we're just going to allow the free publicity
there...

- Neph

2008/2/29 Eric Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> We've fixed the problem with > 24 player servers not being listed properly in 
> the Custom tab by the Master Servers. Sorry about that.
>
>  Servers with increased player limits are being listed as Custom servers 
> because the stated systems specs for TF2 clients are designed around a 
> maximum of 24 players.  We cannot guarantee performance, and hence the 
> quality of the experience, for a player with a low end machine when they play 
> on servers with > 24 players.
>
>  -Eric
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 1nsane .
>  Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 10:05 PM
>  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server updated
>
>  --
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>
> Yeah more filters on the Internet tag would be a much better idea. I doubt
>  many 25+ player server admins will like having their servers outsourced to a
>  second rate "Custom" tab. Not that we haven't bypassed this already but for
>  how long? And why not have a nice compromise where everyone wins? Hmm Valve
>  works in mysterious ways.
>
>
>
> 2008/2/28 Timothy L Havener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>  > I'm not getting the out of date message...my servers just aren't showing
>  > up
>  > at all in the custom tab with 32 players.
>  > ----- Original Message -----
>  > From: "1nsane ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
>  > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 9:34 PM
>  > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server updated
>  >
>  >
>  > --
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>  > Yes apparently it's not the server that is out of date but rather Valve's
>  > Master Server(s) :P.
>  >
>  > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 9:21 PM, "[ЯтR] The-/<iller"
>  > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > wrote:
>  >
>  > > Aaron Rapp wrote:
>  > > > I have the servers updated and I've tried setting them to 32
>  > > > players......but
>  > > >
>  > > > Is there a trick to it? Keeps saying my server is out of date. Why?
>  > > >
>  > > > Aaron Rapp
>  > > >
>  > > > -----Original Message-----
>  > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen
>  > > > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:48 PM
>  > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
>  > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > > > Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server updated
>  > > >
>  > > > A required update for Team Fortress 2 and it's dedicated server have
>  > > > been released.  Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the updates.  The
>  > > > specific changes include the following:
>  > > >
>  > > > Added "Custom" tab to the server browser
>  > > > - Servers can now specify metatags describing the custom rules they've
>  > > > adopted
>  > > > - Players can use tag filtering to find servers running the custom
>  > rules
>  > > > they want to play
>  > > > - Added options for servers who want to become custom games: Disable
>  > > > critical hits (tf_weapon_criticals), eliminate respawn times
>  > > > (mp_disable_respawn_times), and raise maxplayers above 24
>  > > >
>  > > > Initial release of Tournament mode (mp_tournament)
>  > > > - UI for handling team naming, ready mode, and win results
>  > > > - Disables team player limits, autobalancing, and intermission
>  > > >
>  > > > Class balancing
>  > > > - Reduced Soldier's maximum rocket reserve ammo from 36 to 16
>  > > > - Reduced Demoman's maximum sticky bomb reserve ammo from 30 to 16
>  > > > - Reduced Demoman's maximum grenade launcher reserve ammo from 40 to
>  > 24
>  > > >
>  > > > - Added protection against voice command spamming. Dramatic reduction
>  > in
>  > > > teleporters needed
>  > > > - Fixed mp_timelimit ending the map during the middle of a round on
>  > maps
>  > > > like Dustbowl and GravelPit
>  > > > - Fixed "lastdisguise" command not remembering if you were disguised
>  > as
>  > > > your own team
>  > > > - Added "Toggle Disguise Team" binding in Options->Keyboard to toggle
>  > > > the disguise team for the Spy's PDA
>  > > > - Changed PDA menus to accept keys bound to "slot1", "slot2", etc.,
>  > and
>  > > > "slot10" cancels
>  > > > - Fixed Spectator targetID not using team colors
>  > > > - Changed team autobalance code to not balance the teams when the
>  > active
>  > > > round timer shows less than 60 seconds
>  > > > - Fixed "-maxplayers" on the command line not correctly setting the
>  > > > maxplayers value for the server
>  > > > - Fixed Badlands never having Sudden Death triggered
>  > > > - Fixed Engineer being able to detonate buildings that are being
>  > sapped
>  > > > - Changed Engineer buildings to detonate when a player disconnects
>  > > > instead of blinking out
>  > > > - Fixed potential client crash for players being healed by a Medic or
>  > > > dispenser
>  > > > - Made several improvements to server-side stat reporting (not related
>  > > > to individual player stats)
>  > > >
>  > > > Jason
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
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>  > > >
>  > > Yea my 32 still says out of date, someone forget to remove the delist
>  > > line of code?
>  > >
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