I like to call this the pink sock effect. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Porter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:00 AM Subject: [hlds] Custom browser tab
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Lew, Just wanted to post some frustrated thoughts on this new patch change in how servers appear in the browsers. Now those that know me know that I dont moan about changes much, I just shutup and get on with it or find a means around the problem without making a fuss. I certanly dont wish to make a fuss and I know theres quite a few posts about this already so I hope this doesnt step on someone's toes, maybe these issues have already been brought up or people are fedup on the subject already. First issue is the steam browser doesnt have the custom tab, the ingame browser does. I for one use the steam browser to find a server and join as opposed to firing up TF2 and looking for a server. I do of course sometimes fire TF2 up and then go to my favourites but not always, this would suggest that others also do that. Then simply if your server meets the criteria of being a custom server it doesnt appear in the internet list. Some users may be totally unaware your server is running and join it unless they are familiar with the other method. Simple solution would be to make sure this doesnt take too long to address this. Second issue I have is with having 2 browser lists. Favourites is a good idea and people will want to find servers without searching for them, and the suggestion is a good percentage of some of my server users have kept their favourites. But not all of them and the drop in player numbers speaks for itself. If people are like me, I like to quickly hit search, scroll a list and find what I want. I wont want to then think oh hang on I might fancy a different gametype and then have to go to custom and do another search. Some people wont even know that this is where some servers are located. you are seriously expecting people to understand that sv_alltalk turned on moves a server from where it normally is to another list! It's time involving, gamers are creators of comfort and relies on every gamer out there knowing and understanding this is what happens. Finally I can understand stuff like critical hits and instant respawn being moved to this list but sv_alltalk and maxplayers? You can turn alltalk on during play and your server moves from internet to custom straight away!! Likewise if you do move 25-32 slot servers into custom based on the official means then surely you should force all large slot servers into this list to be fair. Likewise the same applies to those of us using insta spawn on beetles now being in a different location to those who use the cvar method! Servers are not correctly going to be filtered via this means. Of course im happy to chane my settings to whatever way works thats not the issue the point is it splits all servers out of a list. My personal solution would be do away with custom, have 1 single list, like you get in any other game and if people wish to filter they can then apply the filter to the list thats just refreshed in internet much as you do when changing the location, ping settings, map etc. It just doenst make sense to have filters for some things and then move other settings into a totally different list. Its logical if all filters are applied to one list, just like you can do say with COD4. Sorry for the lenghty rant, not really looking to argue or slag anyone off or say I dont like it moan moan boo hoo just saying I think there's better ways of doing this without pissing everyone off!! The current method at time off writing this theres 400 servers under internet, the main browser and 1000 under custom. That says a lot, and it says to me that people used to one particular method of server may totally ignore theo ther lot, when before this change you could find everything under one simple list and join whatever caught your fancy! Cheers again anyways. Like a good boy ill be reviewing the settings ive applied and considering the options but right now im in two minds where I want my servers listed and where I think the majority of my players will expect to find them!! Hopefully the users will work this out for themselves but its obviously causing confusion to quite a lot. John PS Fingers crossed people will so this wont be an issue at all.. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now. -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
