-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I have to agree. As a plugin author, I was anticipating the sv_tags addition so that users could easily filter for my plugins. As it has been implemented, it is meaningless because the server admins become upset if the plugin adds tags and moves them to the custom tab.
I don't know the solution, but I hope we can find a compromise that makes Valve happy and still allows plugin authors to identify the server as not "vanilla." Duke On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It looks like I'm on a role today with posting to the mailing list. > > I wanted to point out a flaw with the sv_tags system. > > How is it going to know about programming changes? > > What if I programmatically un-nerf the demoman/soldier rockets? > What if I programmatically make all weapons do insta-gib damage? > > What if I do anything programmatically that does not add to sv_tags? > > My server shows up in the vanilla server, when it blatantly is not > vanilla. > That's what happens. > > And I'm not doing anything to 'force' my server into the internet list to > have this effect. > > Now I could add "sv_tags" "unnerfed_demosoldier,instagib". > > Oh wait, if I do that I might as well shutdown my server because my server > will be on the custom tab and nobody clicks on that. > > Damn, so much for using sv_tags to better describe my server. > > "We've been working on a solution to these problems that we hope will make > sense, solving the player's desire to search for specific settings, and > the > server operator's desire to have better descriptive tools for their > server. > The concept is similar to web page metatags, where server operators can > specify descriptive tags in any manner, and clients can search for servers > by specifying the tags they're interested in. Some tags are automatically > filled in, based on server convars. For example, in TF2 we've removed the > restrictions on a variety of server options (like friendly fire & respawn > wave times), and now the tag system will automatically add a tag when > they're changed, so that customers who want to play on these servers can > easily find them." > > Sv_tags doesn't do any favors for server operators. Server operators will > avoid it like the plague because putting anything in the tags means you > lose > your player base by the time the server sends the next heartbeat. > > On top of that, it does not do the player any favors either, because now > potential players won't know my server is insta-gib with un-nerfed > demo/soldier until they connect to it and play. > > Everybody loses. > > Disclaimer: This is just an example situation, my servers are not > insta-gib > and I have not un-nerfed the demo/soldier ammo. > > - voogru. > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
