It depends on who your clients are. If you're trying to sell private
servers, no one in their right mind will purchase a 64 FPS server; it
is not suitable for competitive play. If you're just hosting some bad
pubs for bad players, then people probably won't complain much.


On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 5:07 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 8 32 player servers here. No boost, they run flawless,
>
> -----Original Message-----
>  From: "Chris ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>
> Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 21:58:27
>  To:"Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing 
> list"<hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
>  Subject: Re: [hlds] Beefy server
>
>
>  So really, fps max is 64...
>
>  On that subject I'd be interested to know if many of the Windows admins use
>  any programs which initialise the multimedia timer? And their
>  recommendations/suggestons... On my servers I've allways run something to
>  intitialise it, be it serverchecker or srcdsboost, and try and get fps
>  around a constant 200 mark across all game serevrs... However with JDoc's
>  servers and results, I'd be tempted to stop boosting my fps and run more
>  servers...
>
>  On 5/6/08, JDoc0512 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  > I'm not sure why you would use srcdsboost or windows media player if the
>  > servers are already running fine
>  >
>  >   nobody complains about lag and nobody complains about low fps on my
>  > servers
>  >   so even if it's possible to boost anything, I wouldn't try
>  >
>  >   I've used both srcdsboost and wmp for CS:S servers before but I didn't
>  > notice any dramatic improvement
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > "Chris ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  >   Very impressive, and to clarify, that's with srcdsboost running? Or
>  > something which initialises the multimedia timer?
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > On 5/6/08, JDoc0512 wrote:
>  > >
>  > > 66tickrate
>  > > fps_max 600
>  > >
>  > > taken at the same time
>  > >
>  > > http://www.exunited.com/temp/trash/players.jpg
>  > >
>  > > http://www.exunited.com/temp/trash/cpu.jpg
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
>  > > "Chris ." wrote:
>  > >
>  > > You seem to have missed the point of my remark, and question aimed at
>  > > JDoc.
>  > >
>  > > ServerChecker does the same thing (if enabled) as srcdsboost i.e.
>  > > initialises the multimedia timer within Windows.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > On 5/6/08, Don Williams wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > > I have no need to run srcdsboost or screw with affinity, my servers
>  > run
>  > > > perfectly fine with high tick rates and stable high fps.
>  > > >
>  > > > ----- Original Message -----
>  > > > From: "Chris ."
>  > >
>  > > > To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > >
>  > > > Sent: 2008-05-06 12:24 PM
>  > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Beefy server
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > > Riiight, so you dont actually know about TF2 and the affects of
>  > > affinity
>  > > > > and
>  > > > > srcdsboost.
>  > > > >
>  > > > > Thanks anyway >.<
>  > > > >
>  > >
>  > > > > On 5/6/08, Don Williams wrote:
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> I don't mess with affinity at all.. I run 2 32x server 66 tick
>  > 500fps
>  > > 1
>  > > > >> 64x
>  > > > >> cs:source 66 tick 500fps 1 24x 500fps 66tick Server checker ftw.
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
>  > > > >> From: "Chris ."
>  > >
>  > > > >> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >>
>  > >
>  > > > >> Sent: 2008-05-06 12:06 PM
>  > > > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Beefy server
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> > Well, I'm running:
>  > > > >> >
>  > > > >> > Serv1:
>  > > > >> > Q6600 2.4Ghz
>  > > > >> > 4GB RAM
>  > > > >> > 250GB HDD
>  > > > >> >
>  > > > >> > Serv2:
>  > > > >> > E6700 2.67Ghz
>  > > > >> > 2GB RAM
>  > > > >> > 150GB Rpator
>  > > > >> >
>  > > > >> > Both have 100mbit connection, both being upgraded to 2.66Ghz
>  > Quads
>  > > > end
>  > > > >> of
>  > > > >> > May...
>  > > > >> >
>  > > > >> > However, with regard to my first statement, if I set tf2 process
>  > > > >> affinity
>  > > > >> > to
>  > > > >> > use a single core, and dont run srcdsboost usage on the core is
>  > > > around
>  > > > >> > 35-45%, so I could easily run 2 per core. However, opening up
>  > > > >> > srcdsboost
>  > > > >> > usage rockets to around 80%... Hence my initial doubt, I'd be
>  > > > >> > interested
>  > > > >> > to
>  > > > >> > know if JDoc is using srcdsboost?
>  > > > >> >
>  > > > >> > Anyway, Don, you say it's easy to do... Care to share how?
>  > > > >> >
>  > >
>  > > > >> > On 5/6/08, Don Williams wrote:
>  > > > >> >>
>  > > > >> >> Actually pretty easy to do. Not hard to belive either.
>  > > > >> >>
>  > > > >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>  > > > >> >> From: "Chris ."
>  > >
>  > > > >> >> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
>  > > > >> >>
>  > > > >> >>
>  > >
>  > > > >> >> Sent: 2008-05-06 11:20 AM
>  > > > >> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Beefy server
>  > > > >> >>
>  > > > >> >>
>  > > > >> >> > Uh, I find that hard to believe, unless you are running with
>  > > > fps_max
>  > > > >> at
>  > > > >> >> 64
>  > > > >> >> > i.e. no srcdsboost...
>  > > > >> >> >
>  > >
>  > > > >> >> > On 5/6/08, JDoc0512 wrote:
>  > > > >> >> >>
>  > > > >> >> >> 2 x quad core Intel Xeon x5355 2.66GHz (8 cores total, each
>  > can
>  > > > >> handle
>  > > > >> >> 2
>  > > > >> >> >> x
>  > > > >> >> >> 32 slot tf2 servers running at 66 tickrate). Maybe it can
>  > > handle
>  > > > >> more.
>  > > > >> >> I
>  > > > >> >> >> just haven't assigned 3 servers to one core.
>  > > > >> >> >>
>  > > > >> >> >> 8GB RAM, 1TB hard drive, 100Mbps on Internap
>  > > > >> >> >>
>  > > > >> >> >>
>  > > > >> >> >>
>  > >
>  > > > >> >> >> Kitteny Berk wrote:
>  > > > >> >> >> Home build from spares mostly.
>  > > > >> >> >>
>  > > > >> >> >> Q6600 @ 3.0 (B3, runs hotter than the sun, but stable)
>  > > > >> >> >> 8GB OCZ PC2-6400C5 DDR2
>  > > > >> >> >> Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L (decent mobo, cost fuckall)
>  > > > >> >> >> 500GB WD RE2.
>  > > > >> >> >>
>  > > > >> >> >> Doesn't get that much load, never really gets maxed.
>  > > > >> >> >>
>  > > > >> >> >> As we're on the subject, anyone suggest a decent reliable
>  > > network
>  > > > >> >> >> card?
>  > > > >> >> >>
>  > > > >> >> >> Some lazy bastard forgot to buy one and has been winging it
>  > > with
>  > > > >> >> >> crappy
>  > > > >> >> >> onboard
>  > > > >> >> >>
>  > > > >> >> >> Mike Stiehm wrote:
>  > > > >> >> >> > Just for fun... What is everyone running for servers? How
>  > > many
>  > > > >> >> >> > players can you run at one time and who is the fastest
>  > > ;)Q6600
>  > > > >> 4Gig
>  > > > >> >> >> > DDR2
>  > > > >> >> >> 1066 Raid 1
>  > > > >> >> >> >
>  > > > >> >> >> > JDoc I want your server give me ;)
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