I see these emails as positive pressure on Valve. The more people who complain about it, the faster this bug will get fixed.
The squeaky wheel always gets the grease. This bug needs to be fixed yesterday. And if you think it's just "the same 3 or 4 people", you should probably take another count :) -----Original Message----- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 5:38 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Time out at map change If people kept their opinions to themselves about what should or should not be SPAMMED here, then all we would have to read is the same 3 or 4 people complaining about the same single error that everyone has known about for weeks. I seriously think some of you have problems with short term memory with how often you type the exact same emails about the exact same problem. Valve has said they are aware of the problem, they are going to fix it, and they do not have a time table. What more do you want? Rather, what more insight have they ever provided or given when there was a known issue? It's not their place to keep us up-to-date with their daily tasks. Personally I would rather them work on fixing the problem, then spending an hour or two a day answering every single bitch and moan that gets pasted here. But maybe that's just me. On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 17:28 -0500, SakeFox wrote: > "To help them help each other we have set up some mailing lists that > provide a forum for server administrators and MOD programmers to discuss > issues that pertain to running a /Half-Life/ dedicated server or > creating a /Half-Life/ MOD." > > This time out bug is a issue with the DS and in so is a valid topic to > be talking about. > > on another note, if you don't like a topic that is being discussed > please don't post on it. You complaining on makes it worse and you are > causing your own issues. If people would just keep there own opinions to > them selfs on what should and should not be allowed on here issues like > this wouldn't be a problem. > > Evan Kaufman wrote: > > You are missing the forest for the trees, Karl. Valve is not > > responding to your constant bitching here, yet several of us are by > > telling you that this is not the place for it. > > > > Valve doesn't use this list on a regular basis, but we do. You are in > > effect NOT bitching at Valve, but bitching instead at us. > > > > We do not have the power to fix this bug. Valve does. Bitch to them. > > Go to valvesoftware.com, click "Contact", and go from there. > > > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Karl Weckstrom <k...@weckstrom.com> wrote: > > > >> Please post the Mailing List FAQ that states all this. Until then, I think > >> you're going to have to live with it. > >> > >> At this point, the sheer number of people experiencing it (everybody) is > >> cause for alarm. Thus far I have found no workarounds, but it's certainly > >> not from a lack of trying. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > >> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Evan Kaufman > >> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 1:02 PM > >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Time out at map change > >> > >> <unlurk> > >> Agreed, it is a serious bug, and they are clearly aware of it and of > >> how upset people are about it. The point remains that THIS IS NOT THE > >> PLACE FOR COMPLAINTS. This is the place to: > >> > >> 1) Gather or inquire technical details of said bug > >> 2) Share and discuss any work-arounds for said bug > >> > >> Airing of grievances belongs on forums and blogs and Valve's customer > >> support channels, not on a mailing list for independent server > >> operators. > >> <lurk> > >> > >> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Karl Weckstrom <k...@weckstrom.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> I second Patrick. It *IS* annoying. > >>> > >>> If you're a server admin that cares about the experience of the player, > >>> then how can you not find this annoying? How can you not be frustrated? > >>> > >>> I'm at wits end with this bug. I still fail to see how Valve could have > >>> let such an egregious error slip by them. > >>> > >>> Maybe you don't run any TF2, DOD:S or L4D servers? > >>> Maybe you do and you don't really care about your players? > >>> > >>> To be honest, I don't care what your reasoning is. This is a serious > >>> problem that's getting lots of airtime here. And until the server > >>> operators get some satisfaction from Valve, expect it to continue. > >>> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
