Sub-categories could hopefully keep the chatter organized, i mean going 
to forums will be more organized than the mailing list but still

Mike Stiehm wrote:
> You could have the best FAQ in the world setup and you will still get  
> 15 year old kids skipping right over it and posting the same questions  
> over and over.
>
> The more I think about it the more I don't like the forums idea...  Ugh
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 10, 2009, at 12:39 AM, "Andrew Armstrong"  
> <and...@mammoth.com.au> wrote:
>
>   
>> I think the forum system could work well if it is moderated  
>> appropriately.
>>
>> The main concern with this discussion seems to be that a lot of  
>> noise will
>> be generated from letting 'everyone' in to the forum.
>>
>> If someone wants to know how to setup a server; why not let them in  
>> and find
>> out how to do so?
>>
>> The concern about it becoming too noisy or having the forum filled  
>> with
>> simple questions that could have been answered had the person read a
>> stickied FAQ could be avoided/reduced through good moderation and  
>> helpful
>> posters I think.
>>
>> - Plasma
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Tony Paloma
>> Sent: Tuesday, 10 February 2009 5:05 PM
>> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists
>>
>> This is the biggest problem I have with the forums. Too many people  
>> on the
>> forums are trying to find out how to get srcds working or why
>> hldsupdatetool.exe doesn't work in Linux or how to get mani mod  
>> working.
>> This list is way beyond that and you hardly ever see that sort of  
>> thing
>> here. Finding the valuable information on this list would be  
>> difficult in
>> the forums because of all the sifting that would need to be done.
>>
>> Also, I like this list because everyone at Valve subscribed to it  
>> has to do
>> something with the emails (delete/read/set up rules to filter out bad
>> threads) whereas in the forums there is no guarantee someone at  
>> Valve even
>> saw my "OMG VALVE READ NOW: TIMEOUTS ON MAP CHANGE" thread.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of SmOoThEm
>> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 8:08 PM
>> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists
>>
>> This list is one of the few resources admins have to combat the  
>> problems and
>> exploits srcds servers attract. If you take this away then  we are  
>> reduced
>> to 50 clicks of navigation around countless webpages filled with  
>> "How do I
>> install a dedicated server". Here there is no logins, no issues of  
>> mods
>> deleting our posts and everyone gets a fair word. Please valve,  
>> don't take
>> away our mailing list. I strongly dislike forums, logging in just  
>> for a
>> quick reply gets very old, opening my inbox to find what I need is  
>> just what
>> we all need, hence our reason for being here.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Mike Stiehm
>> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 7:23 PM
>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists
>>
>> I love the fact that I can get updates from the list via email. It
>> looks like a lot of admins use blackbarrys or iPhones and the ability
>> to use that to interact with the list is crucial.
>>
>> Another nice thing about this list is that it's made up of mostly
>> mature server admins and not a lot of the general public so as bad as
>> it gets we don't have to deal with to many non-stop B.S. sessions.
>>
>> A section where you have to be a member would be a great idea. Now we
>> would just need some way to qualify someone that wants to join
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 9, 2009, at 7:41 PM, Burton Johnsey <bur...@valvesoftware.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Given the feedback received from the list, we are holding off
>>> migrating the mailing lists to the forums.
>>>
>>> The intent of migrating to the forums was to leverage the benefits
>>> and features of the forums to further strengthen the community,
>>> giving us a central spot to gather feedback. The forum software is
>>> continually being updated by vBulletin and is flexible enough to
>>> also allow us to add our own features.
>>>
>>> To address a couple of specific concerns about the forums:
>>>
>>> - Membership - We can keep the membership in the DS forums private
>>> so that random forum users cannot post.
>>> - Moderation - We can assign moderators for specific forums.
>>> Moderators would be volunteers from the current mailing list
>>> participants.
>>> - Forum server performance - We have upgraded the system that runs
>>> the forums and we do not experience the lag we were experiencing in
>>> the past
>>> - The forums are accessible to more people than the mailing list.
>>>
>>> We want to make things better, not worse.  We appreciate any further
>>> feedback you have to offer.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Burton Johnsey
>>> Date: Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:38 PM
>>> Subject: Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists
>>> To:
>>>       
>> hlds_a...@list.valvesoftware.com<mailto:hlds_a...@list.valvesoftware.com
>>     
>>>> , Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>>>         
>> <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>     
>>> <mailto:hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>>,
>>>       
>> hlds_li...@valvesoftware.com<mailto:hlds_li...@valvesoftware.com
>>     
>>> We will be shutting down the HLDS mailing lists on Friday, February
>>> 20th.
>>>
>>> After February 20th, all server discussions should take place in one
>>> of the forums listed below.
>>>
>>> Windows server discussion should be conducted here:
>>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=44 (Source)
>>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=16 (Gldsrc)
>>>
>>> Linux server discussion should be conducted here:
>>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=45 (Source)
>>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=19 (Gldsrc)
>>>
>>> If you have not already done so, please register a forum
>>>       
>> account<http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/register.php
>>     
>>>> .
>>>>         
>>> NOTE: The mailing list archives will still be available for viewing.
>>>
>>> -BurtonJ
>>> Valve Software
>>>
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