Sub-categories could hopefully keep the chatter organized, i mean going to forums will be more organized than the mailing list but still
Mike Stiehm wrote: > You could have the best FAQ in the world setup and you will still get > 15 year old kids skipping right over it and posting the same questions > over and over. > > The more I think about it the more I don't like the forums idea... Ugh > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 10, 2009, at 12:39 AM, "Andrew Armstrong" > <and...@mammoth.com.au> wrote: > > >> I think the forum system could work well if it is moderated >> appropriately. >> >> The main concern with this discussion seems to be that a lot of >> noise will >> be generated from letting 'everyone' in to the forum. >> >> If someone wants to know how to setup a server; why not let them in >> and find >> out how to do so? >> >> The concern about it becoming too noisy or having the forum filled >> with >> simple questions that could have been answered had the person read a >> stickied FAQ could be avoided/reduced through good moderation and >> helpful >> posters I think. >> >> - Plasma >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Tony Paloma >> Sent: Tuesday, 10 February 2009 5:05 PM >> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists >> >> This is the biggest problem I have with the forums. Too many people >> on the >> forums are trying to find out how to get srcds working or why >> hldsupdatetool.exe doesn't work in Linux or how to get mani mod >> working. >> This list is way beyond that and you hardly ever see that sort of >> thing >> here. Finding the valuable information on this list would be >> difficult in >> the forums because of all the sifting that would need to be done. >> >> Also, I like this list because everyone at Valve subscribed to it >> has to do >> something with the emails (delete/read/set up rules to filter out bad >> threads) whereas in the forums there is no guarantee someone at >> Valve even >> saw my "OMG VALVE READ NOW: TIMEOUTS ON MAP CHANGE" thread. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of SmOoThEm >> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 8:08 PM >> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists >> >> This list is one of the few resources admins have to combat the >> problems and >> exploits srcds servers attract. If you take this away then we are >> reduced >> to 50 clicks of navigation around countless webpages filled with >> "How do I >> install a dedicated server". Here there is no logins, no issues of >> mods >> deleting our posts and everyone gets a fair word. Please valve, >> don't take >> away our mailing list. I strongly dislike forums, logging in just >> for a >> quick reply gets very old, opening my inbox to find what I need is >> just what >> we all need, hence our reason for being here. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Mike Stiehm >> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 7:23 PM >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists >> >> I love the fact that I can get updates from the list via email. It >> looks like a lot of admins use blackbarrys or iPhones and the ability >> to use that to interact with the list is crucial. >> >> Another nice thing about this list is that it's made up of mostly >> mature server admins and not a lot of the general public so as bad as >> it gets we don't have to deal with to many non-stop B.S. sessions. >> >> A section where you have to be a member would be a great idea. Now we >> would just need some way to qualify someone that wants to join >> >> >> >> On Feb 9, 2009, at 7:41 PM, Burton Johnsey <bur...@valvesoftware.com> >> wrote: >> >> >>> Given the feedback received from the list, we are holding off >>> migrating the mailing lists to the forums. >>> >>> The intent of migrating to the forums was to leverage the benefits >>> and features of the forums to further strengthen the community, >>> giving us a central spot to gather feedback. The forum software is >>> continually being updated by vBulletin and is flexible enough to >>> also allow us to add our own features. >>> >>> To address a couple of specific concerns about the forums: >>> >>> - Membership - We can keep the membership in the DS forums private >>> so that random forum users cannot post. >>> - Moderation - We can assign moderators for specific forums. >>> Moderators would be volunteers from the current mailing list >>> participants. >>> - Forum server performance - We have upgraded the system that runs >>> the forums and we do not experience the lag we were experiencing in >>> the past >>> - The forums are accessible to more people than the mailing list. >>> >>> We want to make things better, not worse. We appreciate any further >>> feedback you have to offer. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Burton Johnsey >>> Date: Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:38 PM >>> Subject: Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists >>> To: >>> >> hlds_a...@list.valvesoftware.com<mailto:hlds_a...@list.valvesoftware.com >> >>>> , Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >>>> >> <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> >>> <mailto:hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>>, >>> >> hlds_li...@valvesoftware.com<mailto:hlds_li...@valvesoftware.com >> >>> We will be shutting down the HLDS mailing lists on Friday, February >>> 20th. >>> >>> After February 20th, all server discussions should take place in one >>> of the forums listed below. >>> >>> Windows server discussion should be conducted here: >>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=44 (Source) >>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=16 (Gldsrc) >>> >>> Linux server discussion should be conducted here: >>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=45 (Source) >>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=19 (Gldsrc) >>> >>> If you have not already done so, please register a forum >>> >> account<http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/register.php >> >>>> . >>>> >>> NOTE: The mailing list archives will still be available for viewing. >>> >>> -BurtonJ >>> Valve Software >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> archives, please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds