Banning TrashedGamers is not a very good idea, the group is huge and
if there are many troublemakers in that group there is still going to
be at least 50,000 players banned that is not a problem.


Oh, and btw. Group banning is no different than banning for being
named "myg0t" or similar. But I would be careful with friends banning,
I have used it with a few of the most active cheaters that are admins
in many groups or members in many groups and have friends that are too
when picking a few at random. But I believe there is a higher risk
that someone "innocent" gets banned when banning friends. It could be
someone that just wanted to talk to the person for some reason or the
subject sent a friend invite and the victim accepted without thinking
something bad would come out of it.

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:50 AM, Karl Weckstrom <k...@weckstrom.com> wrote:
> We've accumulated a few bans over at TrashedGamers as well... while I don't 
> necessarily agree with msleeper on everything, I'm totally with him on this...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:38 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
>
> Up to 1530 with these groups, thanks for reporting them. A question on a
> few of them though that I did not add:
>
> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa
> Aside from having what some people (read: pansies) would consider an
> offensive group image, I don't see anything blatantly yelling "hacks" to
> me for them.
>
> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol
> Same here, aside from some dumb kid as a group image, I don't see
> anything in particularly wrong with this group.
>
> Are these groups owned by owners of other groups? Or something of that
> nature?
>
>
> On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 02:37 +0100, Donnie Newlove wrote:
>> Having updated SourceBans to the latest version I wonder what I would
>> ever need to ban groups from the web interface, but after looking
>> around for an hour at the steamcommunity I found that it was quite
>> useful for proactive banning since I now have over 1000 new bans of
>> known cheaters (and I am also quite astounded, I would not dare to
>> dream about people being this dumb).
>>
>> I started off simply by searching for "hacking" and such and checking
>> admins at the groups, random members, friends of the most active ones,
>> groups with many VAC banned members, members that were part of many
>> suspect groups, etc. Here are most groups I found with admitted
>> cheaters and troublemakers. It appears as if there were mostly CS:S
>> players but also a lot of CS, TF2 and L4D. Please post more useful
>> links if you find any. Peace out.
>>
>>
>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/gangster-strike
>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa
>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791430166586
>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/g0ts
>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/phoenix-hacks
>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Project-7
>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ELITESAUCE
>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/omegacheaters
>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol
>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/furyon-hackers
>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/cheat_project
>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/haxorzzz
>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/udown
>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/x22shop
>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/360-hacks
>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vip-master
>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/unlimitedhackers
>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/theg0t
>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Hack-Sector
>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ethug
>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Angel-Hacker
>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hardcorehackers
>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/4567319757432567564347
>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/elextronic-hackers
>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GodlikeHackers
>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Infinity-Hackers
>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hardcore-hackers
>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Deutscheprohackers
>>
>> And this guy selling exploits and... yeah, you already know. He got a
>> fan club, but I can't view the members. Anyway, hurry up before these
>> maggets understand what is going on, this is just to easy to last.
>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791430217890
>>
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