I do not agree. I believe that even without any anticheat only an immature minority will cheat even when there is no risk of punishment. But if I eventually am wrong and one day all TF2 players are suddenly raging cheaters, then I am long gone.
Besides, 1500 cheating players that are mostly playing CS:S, maybe the game with most cheaters ever, does not have much in common with the average TF2 player. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Justin <mysteriousjus...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ya know eventually your gonna ban every gamer playing tf2? > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 6:17 AM, Donnie Newlove > <donnie.newl...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Zanork_0f_g0t >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/k_ >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/HACK-4-LIFE >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791429761110 >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/P7 >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/houseofhacks >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/MultihackAdminTeam >> >> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Donnie Newlove >> <donnie.newl...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Both these groups are owned by the same guy and he is one of the most >> > active ones. I don't know for sure because I could not find anything >> > about it, but it seems that ROLEX/GodLike is just another cheater, >> > there are a few "hater" groups like this, chrisaster got one as well >> > and he is even a member. The ЯυĿż is THE BEST (R) is basically a fan >> > club for a known cheater (ЯυĿż which is also admin there is both VAC >> > banned and a member of many other cheating groups). Bottom line is no >> > one that is not in the cheating community would be a member of those >> > groups unless they just join groups at random and stumbled upon the >> > wrong ones. >> > >> > And here is a few more I just found when I checked those links. :) >> > >> > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/AACbyC_Style >> > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/welovehackz >> > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/WCSSH >> > >> > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:37 AM, msleeper <mslee...@cyberwurx.com> >> wrote: >> >> Up to 1530 with these groups, thanks for reporting them. A question on a >> >> few of them though that I did not add: >> >> >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa >> >> Aside from having what some people (read: pansies) would consider an >> >> offensive group image, I don't see anything blatantly yelling "hacks" to >> >> me for them. >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol >> >> Same here, aside from some dumb kid as a group image, I don't see >> >> anything in particularly wrong with this group. >> >> >> >> Are these groups owned by owners of other groups? Or something of that >> >> nature? >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 02:37 +0100, Donnie Newlove wrote: >> >>> Having updated SourceBans to the latest version I wonder what I would >> >>> ever need to ban groups from the web interface, but after looking >> >>> around for an hour at the steamcommunity I found that it was quite >> >>> useful for proactive banning since I now have over 1000 new bans of >> >>> known cheaters (and I am also quite astounded, I would not dare to >> >>> dream about people being this dumb). >> >>> >> >>> I started off simply by searching for "hacking" and such and checking >> >>> admins at the groups, random members, friends of the most active ones, >> >>> groups with many VAC banned members, members that were part of many >> >>> suspect groups, etc. Here are most groups I found with admitted >> >>> cheaters and troublemakers. It appears as if there were mostly CS:S >> >>> players but also a lot of CS, TF2 and L4D. Please post more useful >> >>> links if you find any. Peace out. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/gangster-strike >> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa >> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791430166586 >> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/g0ts >> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/phoenix-hacks >> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Project-7 >> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ELITESAUCE >> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/omegacheaters >> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol >> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/furyon-hackers >> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/cheat_project >> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/haxorzzz >> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/udown >> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/x22shop >> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/360-hacks >> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vip-master >> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/unlimitedhackers >> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/theg0t >> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Hack-Sector >> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ethug >> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Angel-Hacker >> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hardcorehackers >> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/4567319757432567564347 >> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/elextronic-hackers >> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GodlikeHackers >> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Infinity-Hackers >> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hardcore-hackers >> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Deutscheprohackers >> >>> >> >>> And this guy selling exploits and... yeah, you already know. He got a >> >>> fan club, but I can't view the members. Anyway, hurry up before these >> >>> maggets understand what is going on, this is just to easy to last. >> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791430217890 >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds