Same here as well.

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From: "steve grout" <steve.gr...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 6:05 PM
To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" 
<hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Client Crashing on Startup

> i take it valve know they fubard the latest ninja patch....
>
> Hutch wrote:
>> ...
>>
>> And when you release the patch to your current patch, roll back the
>> minrate maxrate "tweak" that you implemented and supposedly fixed at
>> a later date.
>> Servers still have "time warp" lag issue... patch that patch too 
>> please...
>> thank you
>>
>> At 05:36 PM 4/30/2009, you wrote:
>>
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>>>    1. Re: Harddrives which to choose (Aaron Rapp)
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>>>    3. Re: Running LAN server with Steam IDs (Alec Sanger)
>>>    4. Re: Harddrives which to choose (Alex)
>>>    5. Re: Harddrives which to choose (Michael Secord)
>>>    6. Re: Harddrives which to choose (Cc2iscooL)
>>>    7. TF2 Client Crashing on Startup (Cc2iscooL)
>>>    8. April 30th Client Update Crash (Octo)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:18:38 -0700
>>> From: "Aaron Rapp" <r...@iz3d.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose
>>> To: "'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'"
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>>> Valve...It would be very nice for you to get involved here. Remove these
>>> people from the list and implement moderators.
>>>
>>> It would do a huge amount of good to the quality of feedback you would 
>>> get
>>>
>> >from this list.
>>
>>> Aaron Rapp
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of f0rkz
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:10 PM
>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose
>>>
>>> Oooor I can just sit here and see how long it takes for you to pull
>>> out of your drunken stuper.  You were the one to start this and I am
>>> quite the stubborn ass when it comes to pricks like you.  Maybe I
>>> should just unsubscribe from this list since its you waving your dick
>>> around at everyone that doesn't join your cool club.  Oh pllllease can
>>> I become a self centered prick like you? Please?
>>>
>>> On Apr 30, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Patrick Shelley wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well , when you unsubscribe, can you take sleeper with you too?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:59 PM, f0rkz <h...@f0rkznet.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Seeing as all you do is sit on here and bitch, yeah I am the real
>>>>> girl.  I don't even know why I subscribe to the Win32 lists seems
>>>>> nothing but bullshit flying around.  Mostly from your mouth.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 30, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Patrick Shelley wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, im sorry F0rkz, your a decent girl and i dont wanna hurt your
>>>>>> feelings. You and sleeper make a great couple.
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>>>>> f0rkz
>>>>> f7lans.com - Not your moms marble madness
>>>>>
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:21:08 +0100
>>> From: Patrick Shelley <sidest...@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose
>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
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>>> Message-ID:
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>>> On this occassion im not drunk, but i find it sooo amusing to see you 
>>> defend
>>> your boyfriend i almost cant stop.
>>>
>>> You didnt like it when i mocked him did you? But as he does it on a 
>>> regular
>>> basis to other people i'll chime in and mock like he does to others.
>>>
>>> I think you need to get some perspective about being self centered, best 
>>> off
>>> going to sleeper for that advice. The only selfishness im displaying 
>>> here is
>>> a dis-courtesy to the others on the list by clogging them up with shite.
>>>
>>> I'll stop out of courtesy for the others, not because i dont want to 
>>> spar
>>> with you all night.
>>>
>>> I wouldnt want to see you unsubscribe deary, or sleeper for that 
>>> matter -
>>> after all, his contributions are as valuable as a chocolate tea pot.
>>>
>>> Go ahead, get the last word in - i'll let have that. Now is that being 
>>> self
>>> centered?
>>>
>>> By the way, how does sleeper's ass taste these days?
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:23:20 -0400
>>> From: Alec Sanger <eclyp...@hotmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Running LAN server with Steam IDs
>>> To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
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>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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>>>
>>> I doubt it's this easy, but what happens if you set sv_lan mid game
>>> when people are already playing? Does it only take effect on a map 
>>> restart?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Alec Sanger
>>> P: 248.941.3813
>>> F: 313.286.8945
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: mslee...@cyberwurx.com
>>>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>>> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:16:23 -0400
>>>> Subject: [hlds] Running LAN server with Steam IDs
>>>>
>>>> Is there any way to trick a LAN server into connecting to Steam and
>>>> making it use actual Steam ID's in-game instead of the false LAN ID? Or
>>>> am I stuck using primitive methods of in-game administration in a LAN
>>>> setting. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:24:16 -0500
>>> From: Alex <chewy_s...@hotmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose
>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
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>>> I would agree with you Aaron. Ive thought many times about removing
>>> myself from the list as daily when i get home i see about 40 unread
>>> messages. 75% of which are pointless.
>>>
>>> Aaron Rapp wrote:
>>>
>>>> Valve...It would be very nice for you to get involved here. Remove 
>>>> these
>>>> people from the list and implement moderators.
>>>>
>>>> It would do a huge amount of good to the quality of feedback you would 
>>>> get
>>>> from this list.
>>>>
>>>> Aaron Rapp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>>>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of f0rkz
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:10 PM
>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose
>>>>
>>>> Oooor I can just sit here and see how long it takes for you to pull
>>>> out of your drunken stuper.  You were the one to start this and I am
>>>> quite the stubborn ass when it comes to pricks like you.  Maybe I
>>>> should just unsubscribe from this list since its you waving your dick
>>>> around at everyone that doesn't join your cool club.  Oh pllllease can
>>>> I become a self centered prick like you? Please?
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 30, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Patrick Shelley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Well , when you unsubscribe, can you take sleeper with you too?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:59 PM, f0rkz <h...@f0rkznet.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Seeing as all you do is sit on here and bitch, yeah I am the real
>>>>>> girl.  I don't even know why I subscribe to the Win32 lists seems
>>>>>> nothing but bullshit flying around.  Mostly from your mouth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 30, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Patrick Shelley wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, im sorry F0rkz, your a decent girl and i dont wanna hurt your
>>>>>>> feelings. You and sleeper make a great couple.
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> f0rkz
>>>>>> f7lans.com - Not your moms marble madness
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:27:06 -0400
>>> From: Michael Secord <gizmokid2...@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose
>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>>         <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
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>>> Aaron,
>>>
>>> While you have a good thought, that won't work....the list is controlled
>>> by email addresses...you could remove a person/email, but they could
>>> rejoin with a different one...making the initial removal pointless.
>>> People just need to grow up and actually act like adults...
>>>
>>> *shrugs* Just my $0.02.
>>>
>>> -Michael
>>>
>>> Aaron Rapp wrote:
>>>
>>>> Valve...It would be very nice for you to get involved here. Remove 
>>>> these
>>>> people from the list and implement moderators.
>>>>
>>>> It would do a huge amount of good to the quality of feedback you would 
>>>> get
>>>> from this list.
>>>>
>>>> Aaron Rapp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>>>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of f0rkz
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:10 PM
>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose
>>>>
>>>> Oooor I can just sit here and see how long it takes for you to pull
>>>> out of your drunken stuper.  You were the one to start this and I am
>>>> quite the stubborn ass when it comes to pricks like you.  Maybe I
>>>> should just unsubscribe from this list since its you waving your dick
>>>> around at everyone that doesn't join your cool club.  Oh pllllease can
>>>> I become a self centered prick like you? Please?
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 30, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Patrick Shelley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Well , when you unsubscribe, can you take sleeper with you too?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:59 PM, f0rkz <h...@f0rkznet.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Seeing as all you do is sit on here and bitch, yeah I am the real
>>>>>> girl.  I don't even know why I subscribe to the Win32 lists seems
>>>>>> nothing but bullshit flying around.  Mostly from your mouth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 30, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Patrick Shelley wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, im sorry F0rkz, your a decent girl and i dont wanna hurt your
>>>>>>> feelings. You and sleeper make a great couple.
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list
>>>>>>> archives, please visit:
>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> f0rkz
>>>>>> f7lans.com - Not your moms marble madness
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> archives,
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> f0rkz
>>>> f7lans.com - Not your moms marble madness
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:30:19 -0500
>>> From: Cc2iscooL <cc2isc...@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose
>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>>         <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
>>> Message-ID:
>>>         <d42ded760904301530o78673422q39daed8d86af9...@mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>
>>> This is why we still can't have nice things.
>>>
>>> I almost wish Valve would go to a forum now so I wouldn't have to read 
>>> all
>>> this crap in my inbox. People wonder why they were even considering it. 
>>> I'd
>>> rather deal with the slowness of the forums than deal with this crap.
>>>
>>> Valve, can we get some administration here and terminate some failures 
>>> from
>>> our (once) nice mailing list?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Patrick Shelley 
>>> <sidest...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On this occassion im not drunk, but i find it sooo amusing to see you
>>>> defend
>>>> your boyfriend i almost cant stop.
>>>>
>>>> You didnt like it when i mocked him did you? But as he does it on a 
>>>> regular
>>>> basis to other people i'll chime in and mock like he does to others.
>>>>
>>>> I think you need to get some perspective about being self centered, 
>>>> best
>>>> off
>>>> going to sleeper for that advice. The only selfishness im displaying 
>>>> here
>>>> is
>>>> a dis-courtesy to the others on the list by clogging them up with 
>>>> shite.
>>>>
>>>> I'll stop out of courtesy for the others, not because i dont want to 
>>>> spar
>>>> with you all night.
>>>>
>>>> I wouldnt want to see you unsubscribe deary, or sleeper for that 
>>>> matter -
>>>> after all, his contributions are as valuable as a chocolate tea pot.
>>>>
>>>> Go ahead, get the last word in - i'll let have that. Now is that being 
>>>> self
>>>> centered?
>>>>
>>>> By the way, how does sleeper's ass taste these days?
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> please visit:
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>>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 7
>>> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:35:38 -0500
>>> From: Cc2iscooL <cc2isc...@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [hlds] TF2 Client Crashing on Startup
>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>>         <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
>>> Message-ID:
>>>         <d42ded760904301535p4b5ae01fl20da6f6b1faaa...@mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>
>>> I got some stealth update a second ago for TF2 and now clients can't 
>>> start
>>> up their games.
>>>
>>> Fix!
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 8
>>> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:36:37 -0700
>>> From: Octo <octodhd_h...@monkeyrings.com>
>>> Subject: [hlds] April 30th Client Update Crash
>>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> Message-ID: <20090430223637.ga21...@monkeyrings.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>
>>> I just saw a steam message that said a Team Fortress 2 Update had
>>> been downloaded,
>>> now when I start the client I get:
>>>
>>> Team Fortress 2:hl2.exe - Application Error
>>>
>>> The exception Privileged instruction, (0xc0000096) occured in the
>>> application at location 0x00010100.
>>>
>>> Click on OK to terminate the program
>>>
>>>
>>>
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