If you hate Valve so much, you can ban all the Valve Steam IDs. Or even better, uninstall the game and delete your server.
I seriously have no idea why people are so pissed off about this. It's their game, let them have their fun. Are you telling me you've NEVER abused your powers on your server? Slapped someone for fun? Given yourself health? No clip? Teleported a Medic closer? Let them have their fun and get over it. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Mark<bigb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Less QQ, more PEW! PEW! > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Mike Zimmermann<rem...@gmail.com> wrote: >> This thread is just cry river. >> >> -Mike >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Alec Sanger<eclyp...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I certainly don't mind the getting the hats for free, since they give >>> absolutely no advantage over others. The overpowered weapons, however, >>> gave them a huge advantage, which was why I had an issue with it. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Alec Sanger >>> P: 248.941.3813 >>> F: 313.286.8945 >>> >>> >>> >>>> From: kyle.l...@gmail.com >>>> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 17:57:11 -0700 >>>> To: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons >>>> >>>> Says the guy who wrote the Sourcemod plugin to ban achievement farmers and >>>> even setup servers to ban people in when they received one achievement. I >>>> assume you did that because you absolutely agree'd with people getting >>>> achievements legitimately? Nothing serious going on there now Msleeper... >>>> How is this any different? I have no issue with employee's receiving Hats, >>>> although everyone in achievement_idle maps right now, and the over 100,000 >>>> people who were idling for hats/dupe unlocks using that external idler may. >>>> Current people in achievement_idle servers: >>>> http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=achievement_idle&type=map&public=&pg=1then >>>> you can use the steam browser to find the ones that were not submitted >>>> to game-monitor.com. >>>> >>>> You have balls sir, >>>> Kyle. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:32 PM, msleeper >>>> <mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com>wrote: >>>> >>>> > God forbid the game developers want to have a little fun with the game >>>> > they developed. I think you really need to chill out and quit taking the >>>> > whole hat thing so seriously. >>>> > >>>> > The devs gave themselves hats and unique weapons. So what. It's their >>>> > game. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 17:17 -0700, Kyle Sanderson wrote: >>>> > > We as customers bought the game, as the person who made this email >>>> > > found >>>> > out >>>> > > pretty fast valve employees are running around servers using these >>>> > > items >>>> > > that give themselves one hell of an advantage over the regular player. >>>> > There >>>> > > is no need to be sarcastic in here Michael, I was upset at the fact >>>> > > that >>>> > > they all had circumvented the regular way of getting items (just >>>> > > playing >>>> > the >>>> > > game). Instead *some* not all of their employees which has been made >>>> > clear >>>> > > to myself in here had some uber'd version of a regular gun, and which >>>> > ever >>>> > > hat they wanted. To me as a paying customer that is does no sit right >>>> > > at >>>> > all >>>> > > set right in my mind. The employee's already have enough perks by being >>>> > able >>>> > > to beta test games and or get games for free. They should not be >>>> > destroying >>>> > > the game for paying customers just because they were hired (again this >>>> > > is >>>> > no >>>> > > longer true, but whatever), or by being able to circumvent the shoddy >>>> > item >>>> > > giving system and give themselves which ever items they please. Now >>>> > > tell >>>> > me, >>>> > > which one of you has managed to get >>>> > > 8hats<http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561198001709917>? >>>> > > 9hats <http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622>? >>>> > > 19hats<http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197971292977>? >>>> > > 21hats <http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654>? >>>> > > 24hats<http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197971049296>? >>>> > > 26hats <http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654>? >>>> > > 27hats<http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960265731>? >>>> > > the list really goes on so I'll spare everyone the trouble, I didn't >>>> > bother >>>> > > looking at all 159 profiles but if someone wants to... all the power to >>>> > you. >>>> > > >>>> > > I know I'm probably the only one against this, but that's just me. >>>> > > Kyle. >>>> > > >>>> > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Michael Krasnow <mnk...@mnkras.com> >>>> > wrote: >>>> > > >>>> > > > We are complaining about VALVe and the crappy weapons they made for >>>> > > > themselves while saying that its unfair that they have an advantage >>>> > over us >>>> > > > "normal" people even though valve can do whatever they want as >>>> > > > well... >>>> > THEY >>>> > > > MADE THE GAME Even if 100 people have valve weapons sooo.... >>>> > > > >>>> > > > Mnkras >>>> > > > >>>> > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Tony Paloma <drunkenf...@hotmail.com> >>>> > > > wrote: >>>> > > > >>>> > > > > A-ha-ha. You may ignore my previous email questioning your >>>> > intentions. >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > -----Original Message----- >>>> > > > > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: >>>> > > > > hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson >>>> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 2:11 PM >>>> > > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >>>> > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > Sorry, last time I had looked was when I had lost my Fireaxe due to >>>> > > > idling >>>> > > > > once, that was when I saw a bunch of Valve employee's with the >>>> > > > > pimped >>>> > out >>>> > > > > FireAxe's and other misc weapons on the 2nd. >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960563532 >>>> > > > > http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 >>>> > > > > http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197993060890 >>>> > > > > http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622 >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > I apologize for my previous outburst as it was really uncalled for >>>> > and >>>> > > > not >>>> > > > > needed, >>>> > > > > Kyle. >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Alec Sanger <eclyp...@hotmail.com> >>>> > > > wrote: >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > The items that gave the special abilities actually had them >>>> > > > > > listed >>>> > - >>>> > > > the >>>> > > > > > one's that just say "Special Attributes" are the purely aesthetic >>>> > ones >>>> > > > > that >>>> > > > > > Robin was speaking of. >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > Thank you, >>>> > > > > > Alec Sanger >>>> > > > > > P: 248.941.3813 >>>> > > > > > F: 313.286.8945 >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > From: kyle.l...@gmail.com >>>> > > > > > > Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:29:03 -0700 >>>> > > > > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >>>> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960435530 >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > Really now? Maybe Robin should check his own backpack. Do some >>>> > > > research >>>> > > > > > > about it Phillip and check what they're talking about/ actually >>>> > > > doing. >>>> > > > > > I'm >>>> > > > > > > sorry for being so damn cruel about it but come on, look! >>>> > > > > > > Kyle. >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Phillip Vector < >>>> > > > t...@mostdeadlygame.com >>>> > > > > > >wrote: >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > Did you even read what they quoted? They weren't supposto >>>> > > > > > > > have >>>> > them >>>> > > > > > > > and now that Robin knows about it, he's taking them away. >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > I'd say that was a pretty resonable response to it. >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Kyle Sanderson< >>>> > kyle.l...@gmail.com >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > > wrote: >>>> > > > > > > > > This is quite ironic, almost every VALVe employee has the >>>> > special >>>> > > > > > VALVe >>>> > > > > > > > guns >>>> > > > > > > > > (100% Crit, 15% speed, health, etc.) however they shitlist >>>> > > > > > > > > 5% >>>> > of >>>> > > > > the >>>> > > > > > > > > community for running an external idler. >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > Sounds like quite the plan I would like to see what you >>>> > > > > > > > > guys >>>> > come >>>> > > > > up >>>> > > > > > with >>>> > > > > > > > > next, >>>> > > > > > > > > Kyle. >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Alec Sanger < >>>> > > > eclyp...@hotmail.com >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > wrote: >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >> Thanks for the update, robin! >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >> Thank you, >>>> > > > > > > > >> Alec Sanger >>>> > > > > > > > >> P: 248.941.3813 >>>> > > > > > > > >> F: 313.286.8945 >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >> > From: ro...@valvesoftware.com >>>> > > > > > > > >> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >>>> > > > > > > > >> > Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:32:09 -0700 >>>> > > > > > > > >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special >>>> > weapons >>>> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> > Hi All. >>>> > > > > > > > >> > Our original usage of these was a couple of weeks ago, >>>> > > > > > > > >> > and >>>> > > > > lasted >>>> > > > > > a >>>> > > > > > > > day. >>>> > > > > > > > >> It was mostly around testing the item system (they contain >>>> > every >>>> > > > > > > > positive >>>> > > > > > > > >> attribute in the system). After that, we converted all the >>>> > > > "Valve" >>>> > > > > > > > weapons >>>> > > > > > > > >> to be purely cosmetic. Unfortunately, unknown to us on the >>>> > dev >>>> > > > > side, >>>> > > > > > > > some of >>>> > > > > > > > >> the non-TF2-team folks at Valve didn't get the memo, and >>>> > gave >>>> > > > > > themselves >>>> > > > > > > > the >>>> > > > > > > > >> broken items recently. >>>> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> > We're removing these from everyone today, and removing >>>> > > > > > > > >> > the >>>> > > > > ability >>>> > > > > > for >>>> > > > > > > > >> folks to give these kinds of weapons to themselves in the >>>> > > > future. >>>> > > > > > > > Shouldn't >>>> > > > > > > > >> happen again. (And if it somehow does, feel free to drop >>>> > > > > > > > >> me >>>> > an >>>> > > > > email >>>> > > > > > at >>>> > > > > > > > >> ro...@valvesoftware.com and let me know) >>>> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> > Robin. >>>> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> > -----Original Message----- >>>> > > > > > > > >> > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: >>>> > > > > > > > >> hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of tgnwells >>>> > > > > > > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 6:55 AM >>>> > > > > > > > >> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >>>> > > > > > > > >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special >>>> > weapons >>>> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> > Seems like a childish and unprofessional thing to do. So >>>> > it >>>> > > > was >>>> > > > > > > > probably >>>> > > > > > > > >> > a TF2 dev, yeah. >>>> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> > On 9/8/2009 3:30 AM, Alec Sanger wrote: >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > their >>>> > > > > special >>>> > > > > > > > >> weapons? We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker >>>> > last >>>> > > > > > night. I >>>> > > > > > > > >> guess the players started giving them shit so they left. >>>> > Upon >>>> > > > > > further >>>> > > > > > > > >> inspection, it was a Valve employee using a special >>>> > > > > > > > >> Syringe >>>> > gun >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > Valve Syringe Gun >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > (equipped) >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > +15% Damage Done >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > +150% Clip Size >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > +15% Firing Speed >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > On Hit: +15 Health >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > 100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > +50 Max Health on Wearer >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > Fire Retardant (1) >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85) >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > Speed Boost When Active (1.15) >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > valve >>>> > > > > employee >>>> > > > > > > > coming >>>> > > > > > > > >> in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I >>>> > > > > > > > >> mean, >>>> > > > shit, >>>> > > > > I >>>> > > > > > > > might >>>> > > > > > > > >> as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to >>>> > > > > > > > >> happen. >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > Thank you, >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > Alec Sanger >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > P: 248.941.3813 >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > F: 313.286.8945 >>> >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on >>> Facebook. >>> http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > > -- > -Mark > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
