Cheating is cheating, whether you call it "socialism" by giving everyone the items or not.
Some googlesleuthing leads me to believe the server is "pwndorasbox.net" but the site is suspended for exceeding bandwidth. So not only cheating about getting holiday items, but also buying bargain basement bin webhosting. On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Noel <phre...@gmail.com> wrote: > I re-read his email and I think I understand it a little bit better now: > Of the people on his server, some are using material hacks from last year > and some are not, though all are using noclip. In order to avoid unfair > inequalities in loot distribution as a result, they are spreading the > ill-gotten gains evenly among everyone on the server, rather than just the > people with 'last year's hacks' in place. > While quite egalitarian, it still sounds like Cheating [breaking the system > for your own benefit, not using sv_cheats.] I'm not sure I'd announce it on > publicly (or even semi-publicly on a list like this) as Valve may do > something along the lines of removing the ability to collect gifts while > cheats/noclip are activated. > > If or until something changes, though, it sounds like a real nice racket > you've got going there. > > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 8:03 PM, msleeper <mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com> > wrote: >> >> Guys, I don't think my method of cheating is cheating, is it okay if I >> keep doing it? The rest of you cheaters need to stop the cheating, >> though. >> >> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Noel <phre...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Gotta say, I don't really care what you do with your server (although >> > that >> > approach does sound a wee-bit exploitative -- and potentially lucrative >> > considering what some of the event items seem to sell for) but I got a >> > chuckle out of "so everyone gets their fair share" when discussing a >> > means >> > of gaming the system. >> > Also liked the "especially since other people are cheating worse" part. >> > >> > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Crazed Gunman >> > <bsr.crazedgun...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I have a server right now that I have several people on, running >> >> viaduct_event, and what we've been doing is noclipping to the gifts and >> >> handing them out to everyone evenly; my problem is that this could >> >> qualify >> >> as farming, but we're doing it for everyone evenly so everyone gets >> >> their >> >> fair share, especially since some people have material hacks from last >> >> year >> >> already for the giftbox model and instantly get to it. Everyone is in >> >> agreement for this, but since its farming, is that abuse? >> >> On 10/28/2011 6:45 PM, Emil Larsson wrote: >> >> >> >> I'd say it would be the nature of the server. A server that mostly >> >> attract >> >> lulzy players who don't mind/expects this kind of stuff? Sure. Average >> >> servers, no. >> >> >> >> Personally though, I wouldn't risk giving my players heart attacks. ;) >> >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 12:48 AM, msleeper >> >> <mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Would running this plugin count as abuse? >> >>> >> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVL_Xwx4LW0 >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 6:08 PM, msleeper >> >>> <mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> > I'm pretty sure the report tool is meant to be used for servers that >> >>> > are deliberately breaking the established rules of game events and >> >>> > the >> >>> > like. Not "I don't like the way this server is run" or "they do >> >>> > things >> >>> > that I, personally, find annoying". >> >>> > >> >>> > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Jethro Seabridge >> >>> > <jet2the...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> How about servers that embrace micspam - music played over the mic? >> >>> >> - Jethro >> >>> >> >> >>> >> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Fletcher Dunn >> >>> >> <fletch...@valvesoftware.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> I think the best answer there is that we would probably use the >> >>> >>> abuse >> >>> >>> reporting mechanism as one tool to try to measure what sort of >> >>> >>> impact >> >>> >>> this >> >>> >>> sort of thing has on our community. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> - Fletch >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> >>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >> >>> >>> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of bp >> >>> >>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 2:11 PM >> >>> >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list >> >>> >>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] About the TF2 in-game abuse >> >>> >>> reporting >> >>> >>> tool >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 22:31, Benedict Glover >> >>> >>> <neobened...@hotmail.co.uk> asked: >> >>> >>> > I'm not personally going to report these but what about servers >> >>> >>> > that >> >>> >>> > offer over powered weapons if you pay real money? (Premium >> >>> >>> > Servers >> >>> >>> > (Nightteam)) >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> I don't think it's fair to name names in such a discussion, >> >>> >>> especially >> >>> >>> when Valve can't answer lacking data on how many people elect to >> >>> >>> report such servers over a fairly long period of time - the main >> >>> >>> metric being looked at right now. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> --bp is not affiliated with any such server >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >>> >>> archives, >> >>> >>> please visit: >> >>> >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >>> >>> archives, >> >>> >>> please visit: >> >>> >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >>> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >>> >> archives, >> >>> >> please visit: >> >>> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >>> please visit: >> >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >> please visit: >> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> -- Ron / CrazeD >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >> please visit: >> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> > > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
