Well, make it a requirement that there is at least 1 game paid of +10 dollars 
to use F2P games... then they have to buy a game to play. (and yes, exclude 
humble bundle ones). No, not gifted or traded, must be a purchase on the 
account.

and inb4, 

Happy Christmas everybody. 



>________________________________
> From: Team BOOM! <teamb...@comcast.net>
>To: 'Mart-Jan Reeuwijk' <mreeu...@yahoo.com>; 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 
>server mailing list' <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> 
>Sent: Saturday, 24 December 2011, 23:06
>Subject: RE: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report
> 
>
>I think is Valve should make TF2 $3.99 or 
something very cheap. Free is ridiculous. Serious players would 
obviously still buy the game and the free-2-play issue would be greatly reduced 
if not eliminated if this was done. At least charge something, even if it's 
just 
a couple bucks. Then you can block them via their credit card number, Paypal 
account ID, etc. Hell, most of these cheap-bastard trolls would probably stop 
just because they're too cheap to spend a couple bucks, and blocking 
mommy's credit card would end their rein of terror.
> 
>Merry Christmas all,
>Mike
>
>
>________________________________
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Mart-Jan 
Reeuwijk
>Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 1:51 PM
>To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>Subject: Re: [hlds] 
Cheat Engine & Report
>
>
>If 
thats TF2 and him using F2P accounts, consider using the F2P kick plugin. 
>
>Another approach can be to give those female players "mini"admin rights, 
so they can ban someone for a short time. Had to deal with about the same kind 
of stuff, where 1 player made it bad by cajoling up the others, this lasted 
some 
time, and went out of hand. We banned the guy, but the rest kept at it. We 
decided to give her admin,  and  then she could ban any herself, which 
ended the situation fast, because then as soon as it happened, she banned 
them.
>
>
>
>>________________________________
>> From: E. Olsen  <ceo.eol...@gmail.com>
>>To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server  mailing list 
>><hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> 
>>Sent: Saturday, 24 December 2011,  22:00
>>Subject: Re: [hlds]  Cheat Engine & Report
>>
>>
>>I honestly think the major issue here is the fact that  people seem to be 
>>able to make unlimited multiple accounts without any sort of  oversight 
>>(either automated or manual). we have one particular nasty case of a  player 
>>who loves to sexually harass female players, and is able to create a  new 
>>account (with a dynamic IP address) and be back on our servers in under 4  
>>minutes. To date, we've banned him over 20 times, but he simply creates  
>>another account and goes right back to harassing female players (along with  
>>the usual childish racist/homophobic stuff).
>>
>>I don;t know what the 
  answer is, but there has to be some way to prevent the same people from 
  opening so many accounts. Hell, I think that problem even caused the current 
  contest/promotion to be gamed via the humble bundle & Steam keys, 
  etc.
>>
>>I really don't see why any more than a couple of accounts per 
  household are even necessary, but it would go a long way towards helping us 
  keep our servers clean if Valve could start preventing these people from 
  opening account after account. Hell....it's got to be messing with their 
  internal stats as well - so many new accounts created by the same people has 
  got to throw a wrench into their internal metrics.
>>
>>
>>On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Cc2iscooL <cc2isc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Welcome to the world of unlimited free2play accounts and delayed  banning. 
>>Gotta have full time admins these days.
>>>On Dec 24, 2011 2:20 PM, "Calvin Judy"  <rok...@fusionrp.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>>VAC bans are delayed, so they won't be instantly  banned for cheating, they 
>>>>get flagged, and then banned like a week later  so that if they used 
>>>>multiple cheats, they don't know which one got them  banned. 
>>>> 
>>>>In itself, it's a defense against cheat  development.
>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>From: Administrator 
>>>>>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com 
>>>>>Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011  1:31 AM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine  & Report
>>>>>
>>>>>I totally agree with you.
>>>>>People are buying hacks and 
        using them and vac is not able to ban them.
>>>>>At times it becomes so 
        hard for admins to judge who is using hacks and who is not.
>>>>>
>>>>>Fair 
        Play is missing :(
>>>>>
>>>>>On 12/24/2011 11:39 AM, Juliano wrote: 
>>>>>VAC is  banning people who use cheat  engine?
>>>>>>What happens  when a complaint is made by the cheater profile  page? 
>>>>>>(Report violation)
>>>>>>All complaints are checked by staff of  the valve?
>>>>>>Many cheaters are appearing lately...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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