We're actually having this discussion every month since TF2 is F2P and we always come to the same conclusion: Valve doesn't care.
Le 8 avril 2012 21:43, Vij <ad...@ifagaming.com> a écrit : > A phone verification system is probably not a bad idea but I think we have > gone over this discussion about a month or so ago. > > - KAC like Global Sourceban database can be somewhat effective against > hackers/cheaters until valve decides to do something about the problem. > - There is no "Report violation" feature available if the user doesn't have > his/her profile setup. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics > Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2012 3:26 PM > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds] Why cheating isn't helping... > > It's not same all around the europe regarding IP's. Here i've seen my own ip > change perhaps 1-2 in a year or even less. Of course it depends a lot from > the isp but the ip-ranges can be starting from 81.* or 78.* or > 87.* 62.* so it's propably the same for anyone else using the same ISP. > Then there are those which have IP change every time they reset their dsl > box. > > If someone managed to do 20 accounts and cause havoc on IFA Gaming servers, > then obviously the counter measures that Valve said they had when TF2 went > Free to Play are ineffective. Could happen to anyone of us. Luckily these > idiots who use their Free to play accounts are somewhat stupid and not every > case becomes as such. > > -ics > > 8.4.2012 21:55, Yuki kirjoitti: >> Not even proxies are necessary. Just seems to be a case of the >> America-wide-web. Dynamic IPs are thrown at your door every time you >> reset the router here, and it's probably the same in most of Europe. >> >> On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 19:53:11 +0100, IFA Gaming <ad...@ifagaming.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I agree there with daz. Ppl behind proxies usually have completely >>> diff ip everytime they connect. >>> >>> >>> On Apr 8, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Yuki <d...@dazzozo.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Depends where you are. IP ranges won't help in the slightest in the >>>> UK. Your IP can be completely different just by resetting the router. >>>> >>>> On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 18:54:03 +0100, Saul Rennison >>>> <saul.renni...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> That's why you ban IP ranges. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards, >>>>> *Saul Rennison* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 8 April 2012 18:44, IFA Gaming <ad...@ifagaming.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> IP bans work in most cases but anyone with half brain can get >>>>>> around that. >>>>>> Had a case yesterday where person created 10+ f2p accts in 2hrs >>>>>> and everytime he connected from a diff IP. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 8, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Albert Davis <davis.alb...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I think people cheat because they have a small penis and need to >>>>>> feel big.... >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Emil Larsson < <ail...@gmail.com> >>>>>> ail...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The trolling kind is usually the easiest one to spot at least, >>>>>>> since they usually want to make it obvious that they are cheating >>>>>>> (going full spinhack/speedhack etc). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Alexander Z < >>>>>>> <spacebur...@gmail.com> spacebur...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Some people cheat on servers just to troll the staff. They can >>>>>>>> persist in creating alts until you block their IP range. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 8 April 2012 15:49, Brodie < <brodie7...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> brodie7...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Can't always deduce the "logic" of others, you'll go crazy >>>>>>>>> trying ;) >>>>>>>>> On Apr 8, 2012 4:27 AM, "Andrew de Jong" < >>>>>>>>> <k.r.o.n....@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>> k.r.o.n....@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In vol 12 of this mailing forum was it mostly about hacking and >>>>>>>>>> cheating but what I don't get is why you want to cheat? >>>>>>>>>> I mean I know you want to win but cheating and hacking isn't >>>>>>>>>> good for >>>>>>>>>> your skills so thats why i don't get cheating. >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>>>> archives, >>>>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>>>> <https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >>>>>>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>>> archives, >>>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>>> <https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >>>>>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>> archives, >>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>> <https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >>>>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>> archives, >>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>> <https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >>>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>> archives, >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>> archives, >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> archives, please visit: >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> archives, please visit: >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Best regards, AnAkIn _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
