I don't think SRV records are the correct way to approach this issue. As Cameron Munroe said, all game servers currently get assigned an anonymous SteamID on logon. There was, at some point, movement towards a non-anonymous game server logon (with a username and password). If this ever comes to fruition, I think the appropriate way to identify any given server would be via SteamID.
The Steam servers keep track of what IP/port is assigned to a server. So in order to connect, the client could simply ask Steam which IP/port to connect to for a given SteamID. Who knows, maybe all this is in the works and no one knows about it yet. On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 12:35 PM, T Marler <bloodyi...@shaw.ca> wrote: > Well then, let's do it! VALVe? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephan Jauernick" <i...@stephan-jauernick.de> > To: "T Marler" <bloodyi...@shaw.ca> > Cc: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" < > hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 10:42:00 AM > Subject: Re: [hlds] SRV records > > Hi, > > Sorry, i think we missunderstood each other. > > The Server would just send a additional field to the Master Server, > which then delivers this field to the client. > > The client then asks DNS for the the Info. The Server could say they got > that domain but when DNS disagrees on that people wouldn't get there > again ;) > > > Am 10.12.2012 18:13, schrieb T Marler: > > How would you prevent servers from updating hosts if they are not > authorized to use said (sub)domains? Ala spoofing. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Stephan Jauernick" <i...@stephan-jauernick.de> > > To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" < > hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 9:32:27 AM > > Subject: Re: [hlds] SRV records > > > > Hi, > > > > The Problem why i think its nessecary for Servers and Master Servers to > > support advertising DNS hosts when available is that most people find > > servers via the Master Browser and when saving a Server as a Favorite. > > > > Then still the IP Would be saved and when it changes -> We got the same > > problem all over... > > > > When the Server tells "hey i am reachable under tf2j.domain.com" and > > the MS and Server Browser uses that from now on all would work fine. > > > > > > Am 10.12.2012 17:12, schrieb T Marler: > >> It seems to me like SRV record support could just be a one-way simple > >> process where it resolves to the server and port, and that's it. Why > >> does the server need to register this information on the master > >> server? I don't see why this is necessary. The people connecting > >> through the master server are the people using the browser anyways, > >> so > >> SRV records do not impact them. Ergo a server doesn't need to > >> register > >> SRV records with a master server. Furthermore, having an srcds server > >> as a dns authoritative server sounds like a really bad idea. > >> > >> I suspect the way this could be handled is: > >> > >> a) Favourites list now stores IPs AND DNS hostnames (including SRV > >> records). When the player refreshes the hostnames resolve to the host > >> and returns the status. Connecting also resolves to the current > >> information. > >> > >> b) Console command usage of DNS could easily be expanded to support > >> SRV records. Is it really so hard to support tf2j.domain.com -> > >> x.x.x.x:xxxx? It's been part of the DNS spec for decades. > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Cameron Munroe" <cmun...@cameronmunroe.com> > >> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" > >> <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > >> Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2012 9:46:22 PM > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] SRV records > >> > >> > >> > >> Black I mean a system for in game that can't be abused, or hacked. I > >> know there is DNS. It would be much easier to run servers off a > >> steamID, but they are dynamic for servers, at least I thought. > >> > >> Another problem with DNS names is how to report to the master server > >> that this is the unique name? > >> > >> Another issue is that DNS names aren't port identified, so if you > >> move server from 27015 to 27016 your clients won't be able to > >> connect. > >> > >> > >> > >> On 12/9/2012 8:28 PM, Robert Paulson wrote: > >> > >> > >> This has been asked for many times over the past years. > >> > >> It would be very helpful because it would allow us to move to better > >> hosts and faster servers without losing 90% of our players due to an > >> IP change. Even for TF2, quickplay accounts do little to help a > >> migration. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Calvin Judy < c.j...@griffinrun.net > > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Why would you need to go IP -> name? > >> > >> And to my understanding the majority of the server browser wouldn't > >> even have to be recoded, it would just need to store the string > >> rather > >> than the ip, and then resolve it everytime someone wants the server > >> information. (Correct me if I'm wrong on this?) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: [BT]Black V > >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > >> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 9:34 PM > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] SRV records > >> > >> > >> > >> If only someone could invent an ip to name lookup system......... > >> On 10/12/2012 3:09 PM, "Cameron Munroe" < cmun...@cameronmunroe.com > > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> The biggest problem with sub domains is that one day you could point > >> everyone to a server based in the USA and the next day point everyone > >> to a server is Russia. > >> > >> However, I do agree it would be nice. > >> > >> The next problem would be how to setup such system. > >> > >> On 12/9/2012 6:01 PM, T Marler wrote: > >> > >> > >> Okay guys, seriously now. Can we please get SRV record support for > >> srcds? Also, having favourites saved based on (sub)domain and not > >> just > >> IP? > >> > >> I think we all want to see this actually addressed. I haven't yet > >> seen a good reason why these haven't been. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, please visit: > >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, please visit: > >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, please visit: > >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, please visit: > >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, please visit: > >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, please visit: > >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, please visit: > >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >
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