That's pretty unfortunate, but sadly this is the case these days. It seems
to me that it's commonplace these days to release updates which break
things such as the admin plugins, or updates which introduce bugs (such as
with the recent Team Fortress 2 update). I remember the good ol' days of
NS, and other games like TFC. They were immense fun and customisation to
the gameplay back then wasn't unwelcome.


On 25 August 2014 03:56, Korrey Moore <ajac...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Admin Mod was pretty much dead back in 2004. Nobody has made plugins for
> it in almost 10 years and they've only released quick fixes for engine
> updates since then. All of the other old admin plugins are long dead too
> (clanmod, amxmod, etc.)
>
> AMX Mod X is pretty much the last standing administration plugin for the
> Half-Life engine, and has been for awhile now. I'm currently running a
> pre-steampipe HLDS server for the mod Natural-Selection with an older
> version of AMX Mod X. Steampipe broke lots of API calls and compiled
> against a new GlibC version so NS won't load on it under any circumstance.
> Thankfully the netcode is still compatible (for now) so steampipe HL
> clients can still connect to it and play on it without problems.
>
> I'm really irate with Valve because they updated HL long after any of the
> mods on it were being actively developed so a ton of good mods no longer
> work.
>
> On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 2:00 PM, <hlds-requ...@list.valvesoftware.com>
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>> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 08:35:19 -0800
>> From: Ook <ooksser...@zootal.com>
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>> Subject: [hlds] Admon mod alternatives for Op4?
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>> So I've come to the conclusion that the Steamcmd version of OP4 is not
>> fully compatible with admin mod, as some features seem to be broken and
>> I've not found a solution. Admin mod, afaict, was abandoned a couple of
>> years ago, although the website is still running.
>>
>> Is anyone running these old hlds servers and are there any admin mod
>> alternatives anyone would suggest/recommend?
>>
>>
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>> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 09:33:36 -0700
>> From: Weasels Lair <wea...@weaselslair.com>
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>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Admon mod alternatives for Op4?
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>> Sorry a typo. AMX-Mod-X
>> On Aug 23, 2014 9:32 AM, "Weasels Lair" <wea...@weaselslair.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Google: anx-mod-x
>> > On Aug 23, 2014 8:33 AM, "Ook" <ooksser...@zootal.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> So I've come to the conclusion that the Steamcmd version of OP4 is not
>> >> fully compatible with admin mod, as some features seem to be broken and
>> >> I've not found a solution. Admin mod, afaict, was abandoned a couple of
>> >> years ago, although the website is still running.
>> >>
>> >> Is anyone running these old hlds servers and are there any admin mod
>> >> alternatives anyone would suggest/recommend?
>> >>
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>> Google: anx-mod-x
>> On Aug 23, 2014 8:33 AM, "Ook" <ooksser...@zootal.com> wrote:
>>
>> > So I've come to the conclusion that the Steamcmd version of OP4 is not
>> > fully compatible with admin mod, as some features seem to be broken and
>> > I've not found a solution. Admin mod, afaict, was abandoned a couple of
>> > years ago, although the website is still running.
>> >
>> > Is anyone running these old hlds servers and are there any admin mod
>> > alternatives anyone would suggest/recommend?
>> >
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>> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 09:41:21 -0800
>> From: Ook <ooksser...@zootal.com>
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>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Admon mod alternatives for Op4?
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>> I saw that. I also saw the original AMX-Mod was back in development, and
>> I'm currently evaluating it now. Any comments on either of them so far
>> as functionality and reliability? I tried amx-mod years ago, but for
>> reasons I've long since forgotten I decided I liked admin-mod better.
>>
>> On 08/23/2014 08:33 AM, Weasels Lair wrote:
>> >
>> > Sorry a typo. AMX-Mod-X
>> >
>> > On Aug 23, 2014 9:32 AM, "Weasels Lair" <wea...@weaselslair.com
>> > <mailto:wea...@weaselslair.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     Google: anx-mod-x
>> >
>> >     On Aug 23, 2014 8:33 AM, "Ook" <ooksser...@zootal.com
>> >     <mailto:ooksser...@zootal.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >         So I've come to the conclusion that the Steamcmd version of
>> >         OP4 is not fully compatible with admin mod, as some features
>> >         seem to be broken and I've not found a solution. Admin mod,
>> >         afaict, was abandoned a couple of years ago, although the
>> >         website is still running.
>> >
>> >         Is anyone running these old hlds servers and are there any
>> >         admin mod alternatives anyone would suggest/recommend?
>> >
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>> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 09:57:03 -0700
>> From: Weasels Lair <wea...@weaselslair.com>
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>> Been using And-Mod-X for years. Still are people coding plugins for it.
>> Use
>> it right now myself for servers running HL1, TFC, DMC and an old HL1 mod.
>> On Aug 23, 2014 9:39 AM, "Ook" <ooksser...@zootal.com> wrote:
>>
>> >  I saw that. I also saw the original AMX-Mod was back in development,
>> and
>> > I'm currently evaluating it now. Any comments on either of them so far
>> as
>> > functionality and reliability? I tried amx-mod years ago, but for
>> reasons
>> > I've long since forgotten I decided I liked admin-mod better.
>> >
>> > On 08/23/2014 08:33 AM, Weasels Lair wrote:
>> >
>> > Sorry a typo. AMX-Mod-X
>> > On Aug 23, 2014 9:32 AM, "Weasels Lair" <wea...@weaselslair.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Google: anx-mod-x
>> >> On Aug 23, 2014 8:33 AM, "Ook" <ooksser...@zootal.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> So I've come to the conclusion that the Steamcmd version of OP4 is not
>> >>> fully compatible with admin mod, as some features seem to be broken
>> and
>> >>> I've not found a solution. Admin mod, afaict, was abandoned a couple
>> of
>> >>> years ago, although the website is still running.
>> >>>
>> >>> Is anyone running these old hlds servers and are there any admin mod
>> >>> alternatives anyone would suggest/recommend?
>> >>>
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