Sometimes the things you descibe appear to happen on the UA forums I have to
agree with you..  Although usually I've been lucky to get good help. This
list is a valuable resource where you can get answers that sometimes you
can't get anywhere else, and that includes hlguard.  I think it's cause
linux users are smater than windows users (jk) hehe.  I think it's fine to
ask HLGuard questions here.

Folks  if you don't wanna read em, DON'T :)
- Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [OT] This is NOT the HLG support maillist, please
respect that.


> At Monday 03:35 PM 8/26/2002 +1200, you wrote:
> >Err Jay they do!
> >forums.unitedadmins.com
> >Suggest you go ask your questions there.
>
>
> Ever tried getting support on their forums? Only thing support about them
> is their name is "Support Forums"
>
> You usually get some UA member giving you some sort of smart ass, non
> helpful reply or nothing at all.
>
> While this list may not be the place for this kind of stuff, it IS the
only
> place you are going to get any sort of intelligent response. I've yet to
> have one issue resolved on those forums and 90% of the time, they don't
> even get addressed there. Posts sit with no replies forever until they
fall
> off the front page. Here, however, I have never had 1 problem that hasn't
> been solved thanks to the helpful people on this list.
>
> Here's some examples for you.
>
> I posted over there a couple of days ago about the OGC detection.
> Specifically that I was having some scenarios come up that were not listed
> in the manual. My question was whether what I was seeing was a legit
> response that wasn't mentioned in the manual or if the people were indeed
> using OGC. I get a couple of "me too" people wanting to know the answer
> because they were also getting the same response I was and some UA guy
> comes in and pastes the page out of the manual in his post. That was in.
No
> clarification of any sort. No "This is the way it is, if it isn't this
> their cheating" or "I'll have someone look into it and get back with you"
> or anything of that sort. I had said I had read the manual and what do I
> get? A smartass UA person pasting the page out of the manual in my post.
> Yea, that's real helpful.
>
> A while back I made another post about the wallhack unloading after a
> couple of rounds. No response for days and then someone gives a config
> change to make. I made the change, no difference and that was that. No
> "This is a known bug. It will be addressed in a future release" or
anything
> of the sort. Couple of weeks later they release the next version with my
> problem specifically addressed. Obviously they knew it was a known bug but
> rather than address it, they just left me twisting in the wind. I wasted a
> fair amount of time trying to resolve something on my end that I assumed
> (Yea, I know all about ASS U ME) was a problem I was having and not a
> support issue with HLGuard because they didn't bother addressing my post
in
> their forums.
>
> Where's the "support" in either of those scenarios? At least here you have
> people running the same things that can compare notes.
>
> FWIW, I appreciate the effort these guys are making. I've dealt with some
> of the UA guys before and they have been terrific. However, the ones I
have
> dealt with in passing rarely respond to anything on those forums. I see
> them more on the OGC forums than I do the UA forums and I'd guess that
> asking support questions on the OGC forums is probably more off topic than
> doing so here :)
>
> For the person that called me a n00b, please look up sarcasm in the
dictionary.
>
>
> Jay
>
> Jay Carter
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> www.MeanKidsRacing.com
>
> Gary Coleman has a posse
>
>
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