Just a few quick reply cause I really don’t want to get in to a flame war
with a moron like you Eric I have watched your posts over the years and you
just are not worth the effort.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric (Deacon)
Sent: 26 October 2004 00:44
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] another crasher :(

In a bold display of creativity, Mark Ellis wrote:
> Eric,
>
> Please read my mail and the mail I was making a reply to before quoting me
> in your mails and making your assumptions based on an edited reply to my
> original mail.

Wow, that made no sense at all.  I clicked reply and top-posted.  That's
pretty simple stuff.  The only assumption I made was that you were more
intelligent than you clearly are.  For this, I apologize.

About as much sense as your first post. cross quoting etc.

> Someone said valve need "personal time" and this was their reason for
valve
> not releasing a patch for the server, the "down the beach" comment could
> have been "at home with wife" "down the pub" or "watching footy"

Right, so, did you completely and utterly miss the point of my
questioning that implication that Valve employees are just lazy,
corporate pigs who don't give two shits about you, much less their
product?  Why would you bother to expound something that needs no
clarification whatsoever, even a little bit?

NO I DID NOT but I guess you did mine as and the explanation did not seem to
clear things up for you so I will try to make it simple for you...

I was trying to point out that if Valve are allowed "personal time" why
should others have to sit in all weekend fixing servers because of a bug in
their product that could be fixed, released and installed in hours using
this wonderful Steam system they gave us.

It was not some attack on corporate america

If that is still over your head I will get my 2yo nephew to explain it you
in word you may understand.

> because of very simple bugs that could have been picked up in a real beta
> test or could be fixed very quickly yet still seems to take valve 3
working
> days to fix.

I know, right?  I mean, I for one am shocked and disappointed that Valve
didn't release a completely perfect complex software product right out
the door.  That it could take 3 working days to fix is utterly abhorrent.

I guess you are not one of us that have to sit here all weekend restarting
servers because no one put flood protection in or mygot found another bug on
a Friday afternoon and told the world about it.

In reality, of course, you're the kind of trollish tool that software
companies, businessmen, and intelligent people in general hate.  As I
work for a prominent software company, I'm pretty much right there in
the bullseye on these kinds of things.  If you've actually had
experience with such things, you'd understand why 3 working days to fix
a bug that automatically rolls out to the entire install base is pretty
damn impressive.

I hope you are not including yourself in those listed above and are the
people you are talking about called... humm let me think CUSTOMERS !


> You then go on to make further quotes from the reply of witch I was not
the
> author, perhaps you should move to a threaded mail client so you can
> actually work out who said what and who replied to what before you have to
> post using profanity to get your point across.

Holy fuck.  I'm trying to figure out whether you, someone who uses
"X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353", are pulling my
leg or whether you're trolling out of sheer ignorance.  I'm not sure
either is forgivable.  I use Thunderbird, and I have all hlds_linux
emails dropped into a specific subfolder underneath my Inbox, and the
emails are listed in threaded view.  What's *spectacularly* awesome is
that it has no bearing whatsofuckingever on this inane, irrelevant,
phantom problem you have invented.  Strictly because I'm hoping against
hope that your arrogance stems from ignorance rather than from
concentrated asshattery, I will remind you that I simply replied to an
email and top-posted, eliminating ANY concern about chopped up edits.

OH NO I USE OUTLOOK shot me...

Do us all a favor use your super intelligence and hit the unsubscribe
button, then go and play on a freeway.



Here, because I'm such a nice guy, I'm including the entire block of
quoted text from MY email so you can get the gist of it this time
around. Once you get it, ponder how it makes no fucking difference
either way.  If you still have problems understanding, don't bother to
request further clarification.  Instead, end yourself.

In a bold display of creativity, Mihai Badila wrote:
 > On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 09:14:50PM +0100 or thereabouts, Mark Ellis
wrote:
 >
 >>Well we all need personal time but while Valve are down the beach I and
many
 >>others are sitting here putting servers back up as fast as they are taken
 >>down because the smart guys at mygot release this info end of the week
 >>knowing that there will be 3-4 days before valve even start to look at a
 >>fix.
 >>
 >>We had a beta test and what a joke that was one map slow updates you
could
 >>hardly call it a beta more just a hardware test.
 >
 >
 >  Agreed.
 >
 >
 >>Like many others I think valve is too slow at releasing these fixes, we
all
 >>moved over to steam so they could send out lots of small fixes fast but
from
 >>what I can see steam is just a way of them collecting more data on users
 >>than rolling out fixes.
 >
 >
 >  Steam is primary a money making machine. Its purpose is also delivering
 > patches, content etc. but think.. Steam does a hell of a job for
Valve and
a
 > really poor job for the little guy [valve steam product user]. And yes
 > INDEPENDENCE from Vivendi [forgot about that one].
 >
 >  I'm not against Steam but no other company has ever used such a
method of
 > control for the money.
 >
 >  This list is about 80% filled with frustration when you read the mails.
 > Kinda makes you think cs, dod and others were doing fine back in the days
 > when they were free.

--
Eric (the Deacon remix)

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