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Parker Lewis wrote:
 An answer from Valve to Knuts nicely formulated question would've been great.

We are running eight gameservers on two boxes, both Opterons/64bit linux.

Some months ago, we backuped our servers and downgraded to the 32bit edition of 
our linux distribution. Maybe it was just our lack of experience, but we got 
only the half of the gameservers up without lags / cpu overload / load average 
5+, so that we decided to make a rollback to get all of our servers back online.

For over seven months now (since we have our own boxes), we are waiting for the 
(full) 64bit support from Valve. If we had known about this situation, we had 
hired Pentium boxes. But after setting everything up and noticing the lack of 
VAC2, we had to investigate quite a while to find a forum post in the wild 
elucidating us that the implicitness of 64bit linux support of a game like 
Counter-Strike is sadly no implicitness.

But as VAC2 seems to be updated like the 64bit binaries of hlds, we are not 
crying for now. Our only question to Valve (like Knuts) is:

Is there any hope for us, the 64bit users?


thanks for attention


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Gesendet: Mittwoch, den 5. Juli 2006, 21:40:56 Uhr
Betreff: [hlds_linux] 64 bit support

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Valve,



We have been running Opteron servers since September 2003, I do believe we
were the first to have free to play ones in the world
(http://www.jolt.co.uk/index.php?articleid=329). I have seen support for 64
bit reduce over the years to the state where I have been running them in 32
bit for what seems like an eternity just so we can have VAC2 running. I know
it's no replacement for a good admin team but it sure helps, the slots we
can run are nowhere near the capabilities of the cpus.



Even amxmodx have stopped supporting it, to quote the amxx site:



"AMD64 Support - One of AMX Mod X's biggest contributions was a 64bit port
of the Pawn/Small compiler and virtual machine. In fact, AMX Mod X was the
first Metamod plugin to achieve AMD64 compatibility. AMX Mod does not run in
64bit mode.

However, Valve has stopped maintaining their AMD64 support -- the latest
AMD64 engine is missing client cvar querying and VAC2. Furthermore, the JIT
is not available on AMD64, meaning a great deal of potential speed is lost.
Running HLDS on AMD64 in 64bit mode is unadvised except for
debugging/developer purposes."



To say it will be ready when its ready is starting to sound old hat, coming
up to 3 years and AMD64 support has disappeared.



The future is 64 bit, can we have a definitive answer on what is the future
in Valves eyes without the fob off of "it will be ready when it's ready"



Regards,



Knuts

jolt.co.uk





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