Maybe just stick a few in Dallas and call it a day.

On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 02:18 +1100, Whisper wrote:
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> I think Valve are kicking themselves just as much as we are kicking them
>
> Yes, the complete lack of planing was total cock up of mammoth proportions,
> but I guess the money generated from in game ads can now be spent on a
> distributed STEAM server system, much like the STEAM Content system which
> has finally come to fulfil most of its promise.
>
> The real pity is nobody at Valve seems to have had the 20-20 hindsight to
> foresee this obvious eventuality, but I bet it gets fixed, sooner rather
> than later now that Valve are quickly becoming one of the worlds dominant
> Games Software publishers, and not merely a Game Software developer anymore.
>
> Put some distributed servers that replicates the entire STEAM system, with
> say, 1 in Seattle, 1 in Chicago, 1 in NewYork (Probably New Jersey
> actually), 1 in Germany and 1 in Australia or Japan (I'd pick Australia
> since it doesn't suffer from major Earthquakes and its in the Southern
> Hemisphere with a stable government :) )
>
> Join them all up with either some leased lines or encrypted internet
> tunnels, fully meshed of course, and you have yourself a redundant STEAM
> network.
>
> And we are done. :)
>
> On 12/18/06, Cc2iscooL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > I'd just like you to realize that some of us are game server providers. I
> > don't know if you are or if you just have a server box for yourself, but
> > when our servers go down, our clients get angry. I could have given them a
> > link to the Steam forums to show them that, but do they really care? No,
> > not
> > really. All they ask is "Why is my server down and I want a refund for the
> > time that it's down," which obviously we can't control if Valve's servers
> > are down.
> >
> > So saying "Take your ass outside and do something" when you have 30 people
> > emailing you trying to get a time refund out of you because the Valve
> > servers are down isn't really an option. Out of those 30 I still have 5 or
> > 6
> > trying to get money out of me for the downtime, and I really don't plan to
> > give it to them because I told them the circumstances and they really
> > didn't
> > care. The clients who understood and were patient had my thanks.
> >
> > Valve could have at least had a redundant setup somewhere else. A
> > secondary
> > set of servers in another location in case of a failure would have been
> > nice. You have to anticipate the unforseen. For instance, I have a
> > webserver. Recently, the main hard drive actually failed on me. Had I not
> > had a backup drive with daily backups I would never have recovered
> > anything,
> > and all of my clients would have been without their websites unless they
> > had
> > made a backup themselves. Paying the extra money for that hard drive was
> > worth more than losing all the clients on the web box. A hard drive is
> > obviously much cheaper than a server, but I'm only a small
> > operation...scale
> > to Valve.
> >
> > On 12/17/06, Kevin H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > People need to read the steam forums. And not make judgements, with
> > > out the facts.
> > >
> > > Having a huge storm with very high winds which knocked out power to
> > > most of the area where valve is located is not there fault. Its a
> > > natural disaster.
> > >
> > > Backup systems last only so long. And if the network goes out also.
> > > Not much you can do about that either.
> > >
> > > Here's an idea, take your ass outside and do something with friends or
> > > family for a change and stop bitching over something that no one has
> > > any control over.
> > >
> > > On 12/15/06, Svensk Ljud & Ljus Produktion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > How will Valve react on this ?
> > > >
> > > > Is Steam not responsible for theirs acts ?
> > > >
> > > > Peter Lindblom
> > > >
> > > >
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