Mind sharing the kernel config? Its a mystery to most of us what these optimizations are.
Cheers, -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 8:55 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: :SPAM: Re: [hlds_linux] The 1000fps problem It is entirely possible to maintain a constant 1000fps for HL1-based servers on Linux without faking it. In fact it would probably be harder to fake it than to actually do it. The right hardware combined with appropriate kernel optimization options and -pingboost 2 make it possible. -John ----- Original Message ----- From: "xLnT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" <hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:41 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] The 1000fps problem Then game-hosting.com is faking their stats output. They have stable 1000fps and drops down to 500fps exactly. Not 501 or 499 but 500fps.. once in a while.. otherwise it's 1000fps stable. > There is no chance of running 1000fps stable server on any hardware, YOU > CAN'T GET 1000FPS STILL server. I'm running 998-1000fps server on > celeron 1,8GHz. > > Kveri > > tuorpeZ wrote / napísal(a): > >> Hello, >> >> Has someone succeed to get a stable 1000fps hlds on a core2duo ? >> I tryed a lot of different kernel configurations but I never achieve to >> get FPS close to 1000 for a long time. >> >> Here what I've already tested (64bits) : >> Kernel 2.6.24.5 default >> Kernel 2.6.24.5 1000HZ >> Kernel 2.6.27.4 1000HZ No preempt >> Kernel 2.6.27.4 1000HZ preempt >> Kernel 2.6.27.4 1500HZ preempt (With USER_HZ=1500) >> Kernel 2.6.26.6 1000HZ preempt + RT patch >> >> Neither of those kernels achieve to get a stable +/- 900 fps except for >> the RT kernel : >> >> CPU In Out Uptime Users FPS Players >> 71.00 0.00 0.00 15 2 930.23 0 >> stats >> CPU In Out Uptime Users FPS Players >> 70.00 0.00 0.00 15 2 855.43 0 >> >> BUT 70% CPU without players ! >> >> Other kernels cause some drops to 300FPS. >> >> I think that my box (c2duo 2x2Ghz) simply can't compute 1000fps for >> HLDS... I think that it is only possible on a Xeon/Opteron CPU. >> Am I wrong ? Did someone succeed to get 1000fps on other than a "server >> class" CPU (ie Xeon/Opteron) ? >> >> >> --- tuorpeZ >> >> >> en3my a écrit : >> >> >>> None. >>> >>> Default 2.6.26.6 kernel with config i've included in prev. mail. >>> >>> One more thing i forgot to suggest - try to disable almost every feature >>> in >>> MB's BIOS - COM, LPT, USB, Sound, etc. I don't have proof that they >>> really >>> mess your FPS, but belive they do :) >>> >>> -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- >>> en3my >>> www.2Po.eu >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Philipp Reddigau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" >>> <hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 11:13 AM >>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] The 1000fps problem >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> @Enemy >>>> Wich Kernel patches are you using? >>>> >>>> best regards, >>>> Philipp >>>> >>>> >>>> en3my schrieb: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Speaking on the subject... I was trying to archive 1000FPS performance >>>>> on >>>>> my >>>>> dual quad box for few months under Debian Linux. Best result i've got >>>>> is >>>>> by >>>>> using latest kernel (im using 2.6.26.5) with kernel config you can get >>>>> at >>>>> http://2po.eu/downloads/custom/www.2po.eu_linux_kernel_2.6.26.6.config >>>>> >>>>> But i suggest anyone to experiment with "IO Schedulers", all the >>>>> settings >>>>> in >>>>> "Processor type and features", try to disable all the "Power >>>>> Managment", >>>>> try >>>>> kernel param "acpi=off" (append="acpi=off" for lilo.conf). >>>>> >>>>> When dealing with lot of servers on one physical box (i have 8 >>>>> physical >>>>> cores and allow to run about 20 HLDS's and few HLDSS's at same time) >>>>> you >>>>> must experiment with affinities ("man taskset" in Linux) and >>>>> priorities >>>>> ("man renice"). >>>>> >>>>> And as it was suggested before in this maillist - if you're using 4+ >>>>> GB >>>>> of >>>>> ram, use 64bit distro. >>>>> >>>>> -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- >>>>> en3my >>>>> www.2Po.eu >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Faustas Buskevicius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" >>>>> <hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> >>>>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 10:13 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] The 1000fps problem >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Take it easy :) I didn't say they "hacked" it. >>>>>> Since CPU values have been known to be reported incorrectly, there's >>>>>> no reason why fps values would *always* be reliable and accurate. >>>>>> >>>>>> In response to OP, try running 1000hz, not tickless kernel. Kveri has >>>>>> suggested doing so in the past. I think it's worth a shot. Please let >>>>>> us know of your findings. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 7:15 PM, en3my <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> 2 Faustas: >>>>>>> I think if they've hacked the output of "stats - fps" value, they >>>>>>> would >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> change the "stats - cpu use" field. Don't they? :) Any way, not me >>>>>>> nor >>>>>>> my >>>>>>> friends have a single complain about GH.com servers. That's why i >>>>>>> belive >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> text i see in "stats" command and i belive stable 1000 fps is >>>>>>> possible >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> archive (under Linux, don't know about others OS's). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2 J T: >>>>>>> I'm not advertising any companies hosting. I've just told that >>>>>>> "perfect" >>>>>>> server is a real thing :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- >>>>>>> en3my >>>>>>> www.2Po.eu >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Faustas Buskevicius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" >>>>>>> <hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:55 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] The 1000fps problem >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -pingboost 3 only gives "speeded servers" when used in combination >>>>>>>> with "sys_ticrate 10000". >>>>>>>> Using -pingboost 3 with sys_ticrate 1000 will not cause any "speed >>>>>>>> related" problems at all. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On an unrelated, personal and subjective side note, I haven't seen >>>>>>>> more than 0.75% CPU usage via "rcon stats" on any of the mentioned >>>>>>>> GSPs HLDS servers with 10 players on them two years ago. Which made >>>>>>>> me >>>>>>>> think the whole output might have been false. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:12 PM, J T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't get it? Are you advertising that game-hosting.com gives >>>>>>>>> better >>>>>>>>> "performance"? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I can has performance? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Use sys_ticrate 1000 not 10000, Kveri >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 6:47 AM, en3my <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you've managed to get 970+ FPS without constant drops to >>>>>>>>>> 500-750 >>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> lucky one or linux/HLDS guru :) I belive even CS pro-players >>>>>>>>>> won't >>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>> able >>>>>>>>>> to feel the drops on your server. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Best example to ensure yourself that stable 1000FPS is possible >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> rent >>>>>>>>>> HLDS from www.game-hosting.com (im using hosting in Sweden). I >>>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>>> know >>>>>>>>>> how many HLDSs they have on one box/cpu core, but performance >>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>> give >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> just amazing. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- >>>>>>>>>> en3my >>>>>>>>>> www.2Po.eu >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>> From: "xLnT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" >>>>>>>>>> <hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 1:43 PM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] The 1000fps problem >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have no other services running but opensshserver, >>>>>>>>>>> Using -pingboost 3 you get a speeded server. And this provider >>>>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>>>> have speeded servers. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Kveri wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> but with no other services running, like apache mysql etc. Just >>>>>>>>>>>> hlds. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Kveri >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> xLnT wrote / napísal(a): >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> There is one provider that have 1000fps constantly (with drops >>>>>>>>>>>>> down >>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> 500fps sometimes) on their server, or perhaps they are faking >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> output >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> of "rcon stats". >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have tried asking them, but no luck. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So youre telling me its not possible? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary Stanley wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 05:52 AM 11/9/2008, xLnT wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am really bothered, what is it that makes hlds NOT to use >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> max >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources from the server? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A gameserver reaches 1000fps sometimes.. but mostly its >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 970-985fps. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're not going to able be able to run it that high all the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> time.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interrupt latency, scheduler latency, and a bunch of other >>>>>>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause the drops. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>>>>>>> archives, >>>>>>>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>>>>>> archives, >>>>>>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>>>>> archives, >>>>>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>>>> archives, >>>>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> --------- >>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>>> archives, >>>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>> archives, >>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>> archives, >>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>> archives, >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>> please visit: >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
