I set my filters to US-East (where I live), < 100, Secure and map break. The search has been going on for about 5 minutes. But Taks manager/networking shows network usage for only about 1 minute. About 1% out and 3% in. It still says "Refreshing server list".
I did find 4 servers. In the past I never gave this much thought. Since my outbound i/o has stopped, it is not a router limit. Maybe an XP limit. But after maybe 7+ minutes, it is still searching and no i/o. I would guess it has been well over 10 minutes now, and still searching. I burned my lunch waiting! Guy } -----Original Message----- } From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux- } boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Tom Leighton } Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 10:54 AM } To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] This ones for Alfred Reynolds. } } What router are you using? There are certain routers (DLinks afaik), } that cannot handle a lot of outgoing connections. } } My Netgear DG834G works fine, Wireless or Wired, and I get the full lot } of servers without filters. } } Ian Shaffer wrote: } > I wish it were that easy, sir. You should do some research on this topic } > because it gets cluttered with myths and misinformation. This probably } > affects a lot of people, and applying filters does not make it go away. } > (as it still pings those servers, just doesn't display them) } > } > I've called my ISP so many times over this. It acts like a virus, } > pinging every IP as fast as it can. It doesn't eat up bandwidth, but it } > does hit that connections limit. This issue does not show up in COD4's } > server browser. There's is very smooth and efficient in its method of } > getting the server info and pings from thousands of servers without } > pausing once, without causing your connection to go out. The method } > steam's browser is using is very inefficient. And none of the } > workarounds published on their site fix the problem. No, caferate } > doesn't do the job. } > } > - Ian } > } > Mark Chandler wrote: } > } >> Ok, there is a country filter for a reason (so you dont pull in 10k } >> random server you will never join). } >> } >> The server browser has to connect to every server in the list to get } >> information for it (number of players, map etc) so thats why it is } >> making lots of connections. } >> } >> From memory the server browser starts at ip address close to yours } >> and works it way out (from both sides) so you are likly to get low } >> ping servers first. } >> } >> } >> I dont see any of these things as problems. } >> } >> } >> Mark. } >> } >> } >> On 18/01/2009, at 10:42 PM, Ian Shaffer wrote: } >> } >> } >> } >>> About: Steam server browser/router excuse } >>> } >>> I've done a lot of research into this problem. It has nothing to do } >>> with } >>> my router. This issue exists in every single configuration, wired to } >>> the } >>> modem, wired to the router, and also on wireless. You guys must } >>> realize } >>> that I'm not the only one who's having this issue. I think that it } >>> would } >>> be in your best interest to hear me out. } >>> } >>> http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/707/20090118kc5.jpg } >>> } >>> Look at the screen shot. I just did a steam server browser search and } >>> this is where it stopped and displayed Refresh All, indicating that } >>> the } >>> search was complete. } >>> } >>> This isn't the first time it's stopped either. Whenever I do a server } >>> browser search in the source engine or the out of game browser, let me } >>> explain what actually happens, and why you to listen. } >>> } >>> When I open the browser, it starts searching, pausing every 200 or 500 } >>> servers apart, very slowly. Once it hits anywhere near 500-600, it } >>> stops, or pauses, per say because it's still going. After anywhere } >>> between 3 and 10 seconds later, it goes again, stopping another 500 or } >>> 600 above. Then it pauses much longer, and then resumes. It'll do this } >>> until it reaches a point when the list stops refreshing, probably } >>> because it notices my internet is being knocked out and therefore } >>> stops, } >>> or maybe it believes that this is all the servers and therefore } >>> stops as } >>> well. Either way, it's a serious problem. } >>> } >>> Now, as I did, and most others who have had this issue have gone on } >>> the } >>> support site and forum, trying to find a solution. I've made posts as } >>> well on the steam forums, check out this one: } >>> } >>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=698242 } >>> } >>> Stop telling us it's a router issue, because it ISNT. } >>> } >>> I've spoken with my ISP. They've acknowledged the fact that their is a } >>> 700 limit for concurrent connections, the only real limit the have. } >>> I've } >>> gone as far as to get their engineers to test the steam application's } >>> server browser, where they've taken off the limit and have stress } >>> tested } >>> it, pointing out that at one point they were able to see the browser } >>> pulling over 50,000 flows of connections. They've called it word for } >>> word, virus-like, because thats why they have the 700 connections cap, } >>> to stop viruses from infecting everyone on the network. } >>> } >>> One of the engineers are very familiar with the steam and has } >>> claimed to } >>> have contacted you guys at Valve about the matter, but no responses } >>> have } >>> ever been given. } >>> } >>> Listen. This is a bug with your software. Not the ISP. Many other ISPs } >>> in the world do the same thing. Just google it. It's there. Look at } >>> your } >>> own forum! } >>> } >>> I have presented this information to you in hopes that you will better } >>> understand the seriousness of this issue. } >>> } >>> There are thousands and thousands of server operators over the } >>> countries } >>> of this earth who's servers are sitting empty due to this problem. } >>> Now, } >>> this problem doesn't happen to all of us. I'm sure there's a lot of } >>> IPSs } >>> out there that have no filtering, and therefore that mandates that } >>> there } >>> is no bug. } >>> } >>> There is. Either face it or ignore it. I'll still play your games, } >>> I'll } >>> still host your games. I'll just listen in and hope for a response. } >>> I'll } >>> hope others will concur with me, present their data, their } >>> situations to } >>> the board, and then let valve decide whether a decision must be made. } >>> } >>> That is all. } >>> } >>> - Ian } >>> } >>> _______________________________________________ } >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list } >>> archives, please visit: } >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux } >>> } >>> } >> _______________________________________________ } >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, } please visit: } >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux } >> } >> } >> } > } > _______________________________________________ } > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, } please visit: } > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux } > } > } } _______________________________________________ } To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, } please visit: } http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
