Better safe than sorry, I guess! (One less thing for srs bzns players to whine about.)
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Richard Eid <richard....@gmail.com> wrote: > Yeah, 67 is the new 101. Pretty much pointless, though arguments could be > made against that if you watch net_graph. But even at 66, you'll see 66.x > coming through at times. > > -Richard Eid > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Cc2iscooL <cc2isc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > That's about what I have mine set to. I always set to 67 for maximums > just > > to get that possible "extra" though. Might as well be over than under. > > > > I'd recommend rate 15000 for a 32 slot though, at least. > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Richard Eid <richard....@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > The problem, though, is that 100 doesn't exist in Source 2007 for > > > cl_cmdrate > > > and cl_updaterate, so those 100 settings are meaningless. And a > minrate > > of > > > 100000 is a little rough. Unless everyone connecting to your server > has > > at > > > least an 800Kbps or greater download speed from their ISP, they'll have > > > some > > > major problems playing on your server. > > > > > > You're right, though. The important settings in your config are the > > > minimums. They are far too high for a lot of people and the 66 cmdrate > > and > > > updaterate minimums that it is defaulting to are also a problem. > Unless > > > people can hold 66fps on their client, they may begin to see some > timeout > > > issues. I'd leave the min values for everything at the defaults. So > my > > > config for you would look like: > > > > > > sv_minrate 10000 > > > sv_maxrate 0 > > > sv_maxupdaterate 66 > > > sv_mincmdrate 30 > > > sv_minupdaterate 20 > > > sv_maxcmdrate 66 > > > > > > Those settings are a lot more fair to the clients that will be > connecting > > > to > > > your server(s) and will generally provide for a better overall > > experience. > > > I'm actually surprised you're not seeing a lot of timeout issues and > > other > > > connection related errors. > > > > > > -Richard Eid > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Danny Heinrichs <dan...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Just wanted to chime in with my settings. Most admins don't like to > > give > > > > theirs out because it takes a lot of research (at least for me) to > > figure > > > > out how to achieve no choke and no loss with srcds TF2. > > > > > > > > As long as your box can handle the extra bandwidth (I know you said > you > > > > have > > > > 100mbps, but there's always other issues such as packet loss), these > > work > > > > well for me: > > > > > > > > sv_minrate 100000 > > > > sv_maxrate 0 > > > > sv_maxupdaterate 100 > > > > sv_mincmdrate 100 > > > > sv_minupdaterate 100 > > > > sv_maxcmdrate 100 > > > > net_splitrate 300 > > > > net_splitpacket_maxrate 60000 > > > > > > > > The important settings here are no the max's, but the min's, and most > > > > importantly the minrate boost. The reason I have min rates that high > is > > > > because some clients we're having lots of issues with everyone being > > > jumpy > > > > because the client cmd/update rates are 20/30 by default. Far too low > > for > > > > our 32 slot server. The split packet stuff doesn't have an effect on > > on > > > > the > > > > choke/loss that I have witnessed, but it is how we've been running so > > > just > > > > wanted to include it for the sake of completeness. > > > > > > > > Good luck with your server! > > > > > > > > Danny > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:10 PM, FPSB | Goerge > > > > <brutalgoerge...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > > > > > alright, thanks for that! > > > > > > > > > > Still looking for kernel suggestions :) > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Cc2iscooL <cc2isc...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Change maxrate to > > > > > > > > > > > > sv_maxrate 0 > > > > > > > > > > > > Make sure on your client you have... > > > > > > > > > > > > rate 50000 (this will probably reset every time you restart the > > game) > > > > > > cl_cmdrate 67 > > > > > > cl_updaterate 67 > > > > > > > > > > > > Your rate is probably dropping down to your server's minimum, > which > > > is > > > > > > 9000. > > > > > > I don't know what kind of slots you have, but if you have a 32 > > > slotter > > > > > 9000 > > > > > > is nowhere near enough bandwidth @ 45-67 update rate. > > > > > > > > > > > > Try a sv_minrate of 15000-20000 for best effect on the server > side. > > > > > You're > > > > > > limiting clients to a high update rate, limit them to a high rate > > as > > > > well > > > > > > to > > > > > > improve overall satisfaction! > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:51 AM, FPSB | Goerge < > > > > > brutalgoerge...@gmail.com > > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > My server always feels a little off when I run the default > > kernel. > > > > So > > > > > I > > > > > > > find some guides to compile it, but they all seemed geared to > > > making > > > > > > srcds > > > > > > > get thousands of FPS. When I run them, it does seem smoother > for > > > the > > > > > > most > > > > > > > part, but it starts to hiccup. Sometimes it doesn't happen > very > > > > often, > > > > > > > sometimes it happens so often, it's hard to play, and I rather > > use > > > > the > > > > > > > default kernel again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've set the sv_",,.rate" cvars to all the settings i could > find, > > > > like > > > > > i > > > > > > > think i use currently, but they never seem to change anything. > > > > > > > sv_maxrate 35000 > > > > > > > sv_mincmdrate 45 > > > > > > > sv_minupdaterate 45 > > > > > > > sv_minrate 9000 > > > > > > > sv_maxcmdrate 67 > > > > > > > sv_maxupdaterate 67 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm on centos 5.2 64 bit 2.6.18-128.1.6.el5 (default) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've tried 2.6.28 with RT patch/ no RT patch > > > > > > > max preempt > > > > > > > everything between 100 and 1000Hz > > > > > > > tickless enabled and disabled > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chrt on the srcds process > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I really don't care what the server FPS is, as long as it's > > smooth > > > in > > > > > > game. > > > > > > > Like I said, these 'high fps' kernel settings kinda help, but > > they > > > > have > > > > > > bad > > > > > > > stuttering. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Basic Server specs = > > > > > > > Intel Q9440 > > > > > > > 4g ram > > > > > > > Linux Centos 5.2 > > > > > > > 100 mb/s transer rate > > > > > > > Max Load EVER 50% > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am wondering if there are any suggestions to smooth out > > gameplay? > > > > I > > > > > go > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > other linux servers, and they use slightly weaker processors, > > like > > > > > q6600, > > > > > > > and it feels much a ton smoother than mine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both linux kernel settings, and source engine settings (rates > and > > > > junk) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm tired of guessing with these kernel settings, takes too > long > > to > > > > > > change > > > > > > > setting, compile, reboot, test. :) > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > archives, > > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Cc2iscooL > > > > > > Head Admin/Owner > > > > > > http://www.cc2iscool.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Cc2iscooL > > Head Admin/Owner > > http://www.cc2iscool.com > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- Cc2iscooL Head Admin/Owner http://www.cc2iscool.com _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
