No, it's clearly Natural Selection.

It's also clear that legit servers don't have this issue. Who knows what
code is in those crackers. Also just because you removed the cracked doesn't
mean you're safe from it's side effects and or backdoors. Try removing the
OS as well.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:45 PM, StevoTVR <stevo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> I think NS means No Steam. I was also confused about that at first.
>
> Steve Jackson wrote:
> > What does SourceMOD (HL2) have to do with NS? (HL1)
> >
> > For all we know, it could be a nosteam exploit.
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Maximilian L. <mail...@ml86.de> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> 1st) "there´s a selfish nonsteam hater who does this hack on those NS
> >>
> >> servers.
> >>
> >> http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198004893338
> >> STEAM_0:0:22313805<
> http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198004893338%0ASTEAM_0:0:22313805>
> >> "
> >>
> >> ^that dude spams,in general, on the server that NS sux, after he hacked
> the
> >> server. Wich is, at this point good for legit, but exploids mostly never
> >> last long private, and then hell knows what happens next... But honestly
> i
> >> have to say that this guy is doing his work since over a month now. So
> lets
> >> hope he really just hate´s NS and does not touch legits or relese the
> >> exploid in public.
> >>
> >> 2nd) it´s not bad to stay in contact with guys running nonsteam. alot
> stuff
> >> got covered there first before on any legit servers. like many spottet
> crash
> >> vars valve has fixed already.
> >>
> >> BTW: I just heard now that the SM team seems have one eye on that issue.
> So
> >> there will be a fix if this is a "legit" exploid.
> >> But that´s unconfirmed by now.
> >>
> >>
> >>> Then how do you explain that most of those servers ips are on Non Steam
> >>> sites?
> >>> How can you be so sure that it is not the admins uploading the plugin
> to
> >>>
> >> the
> >>
> >>> server?
> >>>
> >>> 2009/6/5 Maximilian L. <mail...@ml86.de>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> No, they havent out this plugin there themselve! This plugin is 100%
> >>>> placed from outside and also NOT through FTP!
> >>>> It´s open if there´s a exploid wich only appears on NS server, or if
> >>>> there´s a "valid" exploid wich didn´t got used yet for hacking legit
> >>>> servers.
> >>>> Anyway, here´s a selfish nonsteam hater who does this hack on those NS
> >>>> servers.
> >>>>
> >>>> http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198004893338
> >>>> STEAM_0:0:22313805<
> >>>>
> >>
> http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198004893338%0ASTEAM_0:0:22313805>
> >>
> >>>> Belive me or not by that. I #care since i´m not running NS anymore.
> But
> >>>> remember me on the day when somone says that this, yet unknown,
> exploid
> >>>> also exists on legit too.
> >>>>
> >>>> However, for now it would be kind enough from VALVE to fix the rcon IP
> >>>> banning not working issue, from wich would benefit everyone i think.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Don't you think that the guys who own those servers just put those
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> NoSteam
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> plugins?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2009/6/4 Brian Rak <d...@devicenull.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> >>>>>> Hash: SHA1
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I spent a little while looking into this, and found a few things:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1) The servers with rcon_password=1 are fine, and don't seem to have
> >>>>>> been hacked.  This is caused by the eventscripts rcon_lock plugin.
> >>>>>> Aside from showing the rcon_password as 1 it doesn't seem to have
> any
> >>>>>> negative effects.
> >>>>>> 2) The servers with actual rcon passwords have been hacked in some
> >>>>>> way.  See http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=93937 for
> >>>>>>
> >> more
> >>
> >>>>>> details on this.  Note that this is NOT an exploit in Sourcemod.
> >>>>>> Anyone running a server with files as described in that topic should
> >>>>>> email me the malicious plugins.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> - - Brian Rak
> >>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> >>>>>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32)
> >>>>>> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> iEYEARECAAYFAkooNb4ACgkQdYIfzEQqW+mUAgCgyOlA+h8ur7xvMKoJTQRl/6nG
> >>>>>> xUEAoMGtzzoymi1hcpB0LAvUv8RtpFye
> >>>>>> =sACC
> >>>>>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
> >>>>>>
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