Lots of people play on best available ones, atleast that is the case in Europe. This is due to no free Valve servers being available close and they always end up to US servers with 150ms pings or just cannot get any servers to play on. Besides, if the players use mm_dedicated_force_servers list or use the option play on a steamgroup server, it will overwrite the option official dedicated on lobby.

I've had lots of players on my own servers and considering the game's age, the drop since the days when they were always full after the release is also taking it's toll. Infact my L4D servers have been more full lately than the L4D2 ones. I guess people have suddenly started playing the older one again more than before. They were sitting most time of the day empty before.

-ics

31.7.2010 4:15, tom nikitopoulos kirjoitti:
Adam-

So we,admins on this list are best available and only Valve is Official? If
this is true (which it probably is) why run your own server?
I mean you dont play on best avail servers right?

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Adam Smith<absmi...@gmail.com>  wrote:

 From my experience when using best available you end up on some crappy
highly modded server no one in the lobby wants to play on and its
either back to lobby or rage quits.

One thing that I would like to see is a change so that if you can't
find a server you don't automatically go into localhost mode. So many
people end up on a localhost and don't even know it.


On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:17 PM, John<j883...@gmail.com>  wrote:
The main reason you saw such a big drop in players is because Valve
decided
to change the default lobby setting from "Best Available Dedicated" to
"Official Dedicated", so the majority of the players are playing on
Valve's
official servers and only a minority of people actually change that to
Best
Available.


On 07/30/2010 08:03 PM, tom nikitopoulos wrote:
Before the major update like maybe 2 months ago I was  high on the
horse.
I
am small time (I run 10 boxes off of 5 ip's) I  had a couple of decent
ranked stock l4d2 servers. I was thinking "oh yeah baby!!!!"- I was like
a
little kid checking game-monitor.com every two days. Then after the
update
monsoon (and maybe college kids leaving for summer) my decent ranked
servers
went to crap.I thought I had done something wrong,but I wasnt sure.
After
this I went on game-monitor.com and checked top ranked l4d2 servers and
they
were all Valve servers. I was like wth? I realize that sv_region may
have
needed some fixin but I dunno.

Steven,
" but work with us here to help provide a quality service to your
customers
please!"

Who are the customers here? I don't charge for my servers. I not really
prepared to do so.
Does anybody here pay Valve for the right to run gameservers for Valve?
Or
the downloads of files and updates?

My point is this- there is no leverage for Valve or Activision to do
anything but the way they wanna do it

/off soapbox


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