Well what I mean by server, is that I am running 2 instances of srcds_linux
on the same machine and same directory (with copies of sourcemod). Since 1
instance has not crashed in 6 days, I don't believe its a hardware problem
either.

So far with mp_idledealmethod 2 instead of 1, I have had no crashes in 30
hours, so I am getting more confident that it was a problem (or some bizarre
regression with sourcemod).

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Guy Watkins <hlds_li...@watkins-home.com>wrote:

> Based on your logic, you have eliminated software, so it must be the
> hardware.  Run some diagnostics on your hardware.  Memtest86 would be a
> good
> start.  Swap the hardware with a "good" server and see what happens.
>
> } -----Original Message-----
> } From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-
> } boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of bottige...@gmail.com
> } Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 8:58 PM
> } To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] new crashing bug
> }
> } It occurs about once a day. Yesterday it happened twice. It rebooted and
> } then when 1 or 2 people joined for a couple minutes, it crashed again.
> } I've
> } changed mp_idledealmethod to 2 and so far it hasn't crashed, but the
> } server
> } has only been up for less than a day.
> }
> } I am using the stock sourcemod plugins plus admin-sql-threaded,
> } customvotes,
> } god, hlstatsx, hreserved_slots, nextmap, prophunt, spraytrace,
> } simpleteambalancer. I don't believe any of these are the problem since I
> } have another server which has been up for 5 days in a row with 0 crashes
> } that has the same plugins plus more.
> }
> } Running the server without sourcemod and metamod is not going to help
> } since
> } I already know that my other server (which is using the exact same files)
> } has not crashed in 5 days.
> }
> } Looking at my sourcemod logs, I find the usual sourcemod errors that have
> } nothing to do with "observers" problem in my stacktrace such as error
> } session started or array index out of bounds which is not supposed to
> } crash
> } srcds, nor did it crash my other server which had been running crash-free
> } for months at a time before the mann-conomy update.
> }
> }
> } On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Kyle Sanderson <kyle.l...@gmail.com>
> } wrote:
> }
> } > How often does the crash occur? is it random? or whenever a client is
> } > moved to Spectate using the stock Valve mp_idledealmethod cvar?
> } >
> } > Which SourceMod plugins are you using? Have you disabled SourceMod and
> } > MetaMod:Source to ensure it's nothing you're inadvertently doing on
> } > the server in question?
> } >
> } > Kyle.
> } >
> } > On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 4:08 PM, bottige...@gmail.com
> } > <bottige...@gmail.com> wrote:
> } > > @clad
> } > >
> } > > If the plugin is in memory but not loaded into sourcemod, it isn't
> } going
> } > to
> } > > crash the server. Typing sm plugins list does not show the prophunt
> in
> } > the
> } > > list on a non-prophunt map.
> } > >
> } > > @Peter
> } > >
> } > > My sdkhooks is already the latest version. Both my servers are using
> } the
> } > > same version so it isn't because one is newer or older than the
> other.
> } I
> } > > also don't need to look at my sourcemod error log because I was
> } looking
> } > at
> } > > my console when a crash happened, and there was no sourcemod error
> } > anywhere
> } > > near the crash.
> } > >
> } > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Peter Lindblom <i...@teaterljud.se
> >
> } > wrote:
> } > >
> } > >> I have several times had servers crashing because an old sdkhooks,
> } one
> } > >> dods-gg server is running fine and another is crashing, but with a
> } newer
> } > >> sdkhooks its on the track again.
> } > >> But its have also been quite easy to find the error by looking in
> } > >> sourcemod/logs/errors_2010xxxx.log
> } > >> Always look in the logs before posting :-) - you get the correct
> } answer
> } > >> fast that way !
> } > >>
> } > >> Peter
> } > >>
> } > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "clad iron" <cladi...@gmail.com>
> } > >> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" <
> } > >> hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com>
> } > >> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 6:59 PM
> } > >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] new crashing bug
> } > >>
> } > >>
> } > >>
> } > >>  in Sourcemod, when you either move a plugin to the disabled folder,
> } or
> } > >>> even
> } > >>> "sm unload <plugin>" it still has the plugin in memory.
> } > >>> I don't think even a map change fully removes it from memory.
> } > >>>
> } > >>> try disabling the prophunt, and restart the server and see if there
> } are
> } > >>> any
> } > >>> crashes.
> } > >>>
> } > >>> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:51 AM, bottige...@gmail.com
> } > >>> <bottige...@gmail.com>wrote:
> } > >>>
> } > >>>  I have sourcemod plugins, but I know they aren't the problem
> } because I
> } > >>>> have
> } > >>>> another server with the same plugins and even a few more which has
> } > been
> } > >>>> up
> } > >>>> for 5 days with 0 crashes. Well the same plugins except for the
> } > prophunt
> } > >>>> plugin which is unloaded at the beginning of each non-prophunt
> map,
> } > and
> } > >>>> the
> } > >>>> crashes have been between 2 non-prophunt maps.
> } > >>>>
> } > >>>> I also know it isn't an old sourcemod or metamod, because I just
> } > >>>> installed
> } > >>>> the bleeding edge repository versions on both servers a week ago.
> } > >>>>
> } > >>>> Because both servers are using the same srcds directory, it
> } probably
> } > >>>> isn't
> } > >>>> corrupted. But I just checked with -verify-all and all my files
> are
> } up
> } > to
> } > >>>> date.
> } > >>>>
> } > >>>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Peter Lindblom
> } <i...@teaterljud.se>
> } > >>>> wrote:
> } > >>>>
> } > >>>> > Do you have any plugins ? - if yes - update them !
> } > >>>> >
> } > >>>> > if no - do a -verify all
> } > >>>> >
> } > >>>> > but with all thouse xxxObserverxxx its looking as you have an
> old
> } > >>>> sourcemod
> } > >>>> > install or similar
> } > >>>> >
> } > >>>> > Peter
> } > >>>> >
> } > >>>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: <bottige...@gmail.com>
> } > >>>> > To: <hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com>
> } > >>>> > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 4:11 AM
> } > >>>> > Subject: [hlds_linux] new crashing bug
> } > >>>> >
> } > >>>> >
> } > >>>> >  I've been getting server crashes since the last patch on one of
> } my
> } > >>>> servers
> } > >>>> >> which has had mp_idledealmethod 1.
> } > >>>> >>
> } > >>>> >> Does anyone have any insight as to what is causing these
> } crashes?
> } > >>>> >>
> } > >>>> >> #0  0xb4890cdc in CBasePlayer::SetObserverTarget(CBaseEntity*)
> } ()
> } > >>>> >>  from /home/lorph/steam/server1/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
> } > >>>> >> #1  0xb4a558ba in CTFPlayer::SetObserverTarget(CBaseEntity*) ()
> } > >>>> >>  from /home/lorph/steam/server1/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
> } > >>>> >> #2  0xb4a72896 in CTFPlayer::SetObserverMode(int) ()
> } > >>>> >>  from /home/lorph/steam/server1/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
> } > >>>> >> #3  0xb4875671 in CBasePlayer::ForceObserverMode(int) ()
> } > >>>> >>  from /home/lorph/steam/server1/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
> } > >>>> >> #4  0xb48867f4 in CBasePlayer::ValidateCurrentObserverTarget()
> } ()
> } > >>>> >>  from /home/lorph/steam/server1/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
> } > >>>> >> #5  0xb4a70f51 in CTFPlayer::ValidateCurrentObserverTarget() ()
> } > >>>> >>  from /home/lorph/steam/server1/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
> } > >>>> >> #6  0xb487ec6e in CBasePlayer::CheckObserverSettings() ()
> } > >>>> >>  from /home/lorph/steam/server1/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
> } > >>>> >> #7  0xb4a5935d in CTFPlayer::CheckObserverSettings() ()
> } > >>>> >>  from /home/lorph/steam/server1/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
> } > >>>> >> #8  0xb4a727eb in CTFPlayer::SetObserverMode(int) ()
> } > >>>> >>  from /home/lorph/steam/server1/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
> } > >>>> >> #9  0xb4875671 in CBasePlayer::ForceObserverMode(int) ()
> } > >>>> >>  from /home/lorph/steam/server1/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
> } > >>>> >> #10 0xb48867f4 in CBasePlayer::ValidateCurrentObserverTarget()
> } ()
> } > >>>> >>  from /home/lorph/steam/server1/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
> } > >>>> >> #11 0xb4a70f51 in CTFPlayer::ValidateCurrentObserverTarget() ()
> } > >>>> >>  from /home/lorph/steam/server1/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
> } > >>>> >> #12 0xb487ec6e in CBasePlayer::CheckObserverSettings() ()
> } > >>>> >>  from /home/lorph/steam/server1/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
> } > >>>> >> #13 0xb4a5935d in CTFPlayer::CheckObserverSettings() ()
> } > >>>> >>  from /home/lorph/steam/server1/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
> } > >>>> >> #14 0xb4a727eb in CTFPlayer::SetObserverMode(int) ()
> } > >>>> >>  from /home/lorph/steam/server1/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
> } > >>>> >> #15 0xb4875671 in CBasePlayer::ForceObserverMode(int) ()
> } > >>>> >>  from /home/lorph/steam/server1/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
> } > >>>> >> #16 0xb48867f4 in CBasePlayer::ValidateCurrentObserverTarget()
> } ()
> } > >>>> >>  from /home/lorph/steam/server1/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
> } > >>>> >> #17 0xb4a70f51 in CTFPlayer::ValidateCurrentObserverTarget() ()
> } > >>>> >>  from /home/lorph/steam/server1/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
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