Are you sure they're not just adding more servers? Changing IPs is a server playerbase suicide as anyone who had it bookmarked won't be able to find it again. I suppose they could use those servers for redirects, but in theory that would get those IPs blacklisted pretty fast if Valve's scoring/reputation system is still in effect.
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:42 AM, Jesse Porter <reacherg...@gmail.com> wrote: > The problem with blacklisting these servers is that they seem to show up a > few weeks later with a new batch of ip addresses. Can't blacklist them > effectively when they do that. > On Nov 1, 2011 7:40 PM, "Robert Paulson" <thepauls...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> It is very rude of you to repeatedly spam the mailing list to pressure >> Valve into doing whatever you want instead of working on crashes and >> content. >> >> Valve has already put in a huge effort making these servers less prominent. >> >> - Blacklist >> - Quickplay >> - Reputation >> >> It isn't perfect but blacklisting takes care of the servers you don't like >> once you've spotted them. Quickplay and reputation filter most of the ones >> you haven't spotted yet. No one I know has any problems finding a server >> full of real players. Everyone I know just blacklists and move on. >> >> Server IPs do not change often since it costs money to buy new ones and you >> need proper ARIN justification to get more due to the IPV4 shortage. The >> fact that you are on here spamming about it as though TF2 is going to die >> out next week makes me think that you are struggling with your own server >> rather than being a concerned player. >> >> I also hate the big pay-to-win servers with fake clients, but it would be a >> mistake for Valve to just de-list them, wrongly assuming no one really >> wants to play there. I have a friend who wouldn't be playing TF2 if they >> didn't exist and has bought hundreds of dollars worth of Mann Co keys. And >> from what he tells me he isn't the only one. Yes he knows there are bots. >> The "cloaked" bots appeal to him for the same reason Valve decided not to >> name bots bot1, bot2, bot3 and to have them taunt randomly. >> >> These servers still exist not because of a fake player plugin but because, >> as much as it pains us to believe, some players actually prefer them. >> >> No one here is enthusiastic about having Valve delist servers based on >> anonymous reports because we all know that the system will be abused even >> though they have "taken basic measures to prevent" it. We know this because >> they also took "measures" to prevent F2P players from avoiding VAC bans by >> making throw-away accounts, yet I still see hackers that have made at least >> 5 of them in a row and even adding their old VAC banned account on their >> friends list. >> >> To save Valve the administration overhead and abuse, and to satisfy both >> server administrators and players, I suggest dropping the server report >> function and adding either of these 2 features. >> >> 1. Add a check-box for Valve-only/Favorites-only Quickplay servers. >> >> 2. Let premium players rate servers from 1 to 5 upon disconnection. Each >> player may only vote once. To prevent voter apathy, servers are >> automatically rated a 5 if the player does not vote. Then the user can >> decide for him/herself to connect to the server based on the rating rather >> than a few opinionated complainers. >> >> These two solutions address the root of the problem and lets the player >> decide while freeing Valve to work on more content. >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
