Oh no, 1nsane, you left your Jump To Conclusions mat at home! On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:39 PM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote: > Wow, clearly it's a conspiracy. Valve must be completely compromised. > > Except I see hundreds (thousands?) of Valve TF2 servers in my server > browser. > > They are not down. > > On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:12 PM, coffee problem <spoofedpac...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> I wonder why the Valve TF2 servers themselves have been offline since >> yesterday. >> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:09 PM, msleeper <mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com >> >wrote: >> >> > As I said: >> > >> > > Assuming that your SPUF login and password is the same as your Steam >> > > login and password, 1.) that's not Valve's fault that you are >> > > literally the worst at the password game, but 2.) it's only a problem >> > > if you are in the 0.001% of people who don't use Steam Guard. >> > >> > So unless your "several hundred users" all some how fit both of those >> > profiles, then I don't see what there is to be freaking out about. >> > >> > How many of you are aware that the forum is a completely separate and >> > unconnected entity to every other Steam service? >> > >> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Nathan Radcliffe <kugr...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > > Feel free to suggest a better option. Should I ignore the still as yet >> > > unknown (and unconfirmed by the company) security breach that has >> > rendered >> > > a major section of it's website offline for near on two days, or warn >> the >> > > several hundred of my users that they should look over their account >> and >> > > security details? >> > > >> > > On 9 November 2011 01:45, msleeper <mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com> >> wrote: >> > > >> > >> Yes, panicking and being reactionary is always the best course of >> > action. >> > >> >> > >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Nathan Radcliffe <kugr...@gmail.com> >> > >> wrote: >> > >> > Thinking the worst is the best thing to do in this situation. Until >> > >> Valve >> > >> > release some indication of what account details (if any) have >> > >> > been compromised it's easiest to assume all details have been, and >> > advise >> > >> > all users to look over their account security. Steamguard works >> > great if >> > >> > you have different passwords for your steam account and steam forums >> > and >> > >> > email, but I still know a lot of users both in gaming areas and real >> > life >> > >> > areas that use the same password for everything (despite how much I >> > >> > discourage it). >> > >> > >> > >> > Everyone is speculating because Valve have not released any details >> > as to >> > >> > what has been comprised. After nearly 48 hours that's pretty >> > >> unacceptable >> > >> > from a multi-million user company. >> > >> > >> > >> > On 9 November 2011 01:19, DontWannaName! <ad...@topnotchclan.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> >> I think you are thinking the worst. All someone needs to post what >> > they >> > >> did >> > >> >> is access to the VB admin CP which just requires an admin. My guess >> > is >> > >> it >> > >> >> isnt as bad as people are making it out to be and right now >> everyone >> > is >> > >> >> speculating the worst. Just chill.... >> > >> >> >> > >> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Nathan Radcliffe < >> kugr...@gmail.com> >> > >> >> wrote: >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > Correct, but where else should it be posted? On the forums >> maybe? >> > >> It's >> > >> >> > been nearly two days, and still no official press release. A few >> > >> people >> > >> >> > have reported receiving spam emails and I've seen unconfirmed >> > reports >> > >> of >> > >> >> > password databases being leaked. >> > >> >> > I don't have much doubt that most people on this list have good >> > >> password >> > >> >> > management, but I'm sure there's still millions of forums users >> > >> unaware >> > >> >> > that any hack happened, or if they are aware, how it may have >> > effected >> > >> >> > them. >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > On 8 November 2011 20:05, msleeper <mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com >> > >> > >> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > > This is not relevant to server administration. >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:07 AM, m33crob <ad...@m33crob.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> > > > Hello Valve, >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > > > I'd like to request notification via these mailing lists >> > once/if >> > >> >> Valve >> > >> >> > > > makes a statement about todays security breach and subsequent >> > >> >> downtime. >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/11/07/steam-forums-down-after-possible-hacker-attack/ >> > >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > >> >> > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> > >> >> archives, >> > >> >> > > please visit: >> > >> >> > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > >> >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> > >> archives, >> > >> >> > > please visit: >> > >> >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > >> >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> > archives, >> > >> >> > please visit: >> > >> >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> > archives, >> > >> >> please visit: >> > >> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > >> >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> > >> please visit: >> > >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > >> please visit: >> > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > >> >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >
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