On 16/03/2012 17:12, Kyle Sanderson wrote:

Option 4 is absolutely poisonous.

I don't see why you think that?

AFAICT the only difference between 3 and 4 is, afaict, that 4 additionally stops me joining a server if I've blocked someone on it.

How is that poisonous? If I block someone out of spite it means I can't join the server. Haven't I just pwned myself? :D

Option 3 I could see some have an issue with. Which 4 includes. Perhaps that's what you meant.

Chet describes some of the rationale behind it (from the point of view of left 4 dead 2) here :- http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=28547471&postcount=237 <http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=28547471&postcount=237>

I can't say I'm that worried. I play mostly on Valve's tf2 servers - assuming these servers will be amongst the few that even have option 3 or 4 enabled in the first place, as he says there really are too many servers and people playing for spite to have too much influence over the results of implementing it. But I guess we'll see.

Although I'm not convinced the problem of jerks is global, I think it's cultural. Not entirely, of course, but I see very little negative behaviour in the games I play in the EU. Although I haven't played l4d2 for a long time.
Maybe they have the evidence that's not the case and I'm just lucky.

But I think the antagonistic admins and the servers that spam the rules in the chat every 5 minutes or jump up and down because someone speaks a different language will probably attract most of the attention seekers and troublemakers anyway. Simply because there's an admin and a community for them to wind up.

There is a bit of trend for people to mess around voting people off (and a tendency for people to vote 'yes' to the 'player is idle' reason without giving it much thought). I've seen some voting off as well so that guys sharing a clan tag can all play on the same team.

I don't imagine many 3rd party servers using option 3 or 4. Option 1 should keep plugin authors quietly reinventing the wheel, and 2 seems to be reasonable "my server my rules" territory.

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Dan

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