What people don't get: New server communities have no way to establish themselves anymore.
Every single time people tout how "Your servers are dead anyway if they rely on quickplay", "My servers don't need quickplay", great. But how exactly are newcomers supposed to get to that stage? New players are almost forced to use quickplay at this point. If these players never leave this system, and now don't even get connected to community servers by default, how are server operators supposed to get those regular players onto their servers? There is no way to do that. You can literally offer the best experience possible, but people won't search for and let alone even find your server. We have gotten a pretty stable amount of regulars in the time we've been doing this. Largely because quickplay allowed us to kickstart that development immensely. We can offer a good experience to a lot of returning players, but where should we find new players now? Not only do we need them in some of the slower times when our core playerbase is partly absent, to have the server still be full with a mix of QP and returning players. But also regulars won't be staying around forever. The natural development in the playerbase is gone if all new players are drained towards Valve servers in the future. Right now we could afford to not care about this. But it's simply ignorant and a dick move to just move along and even defend this decision. It hurts your peers, and in the long run it will hurt you. This is not a good way, I want it to change. On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Doctor McKay <mc...@doctormckay.com> wrote: > In my experience, 19% of people who join via Quickplay come back. That's > not an insignificant number. > > > Dr. McKay > www.doctormckay.com > > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Gordon Reynolds < > thisisgordonsem...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> If your players were only in your servers because of quickplay, they >> probably do not care one iota about your Server (the entity that is the >> collection of your hardware, admins, regulars, plugins, etc), you were just >> some hallway that connected them from "not playing TF2" to "playing TF2". >> >> When their match is done and over, they hit disconnect, never add you to >> favorites, and may never show back up again. You could see this as "Valve >> stealing your quickplay traffic" or you could see this as "Valve rounding >> up the people who mash PLAYNOW and have no interest in dedicated servers, >> or server communities". >> >> It's a changing demographic - people just want to play videogames, not >> really sign up for a whole 'favorite server loyalty program'. >> >> And who cares if our servers "die out"? What are we out? Ego? >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Doctor McKay <mc...@doctormckay.com> >> wrote: >> >> > For lack of a better word, this is the last stand of community servers. >> > >> > The smaller communities that depend on Quickplay to gain popularity will >> > die out. We'll be left with nothing but the already-large-and-established >> > server chains, like Lotus, Skial, Saigns, and NighTeam. >> > >> > >> > Dr. McKay >> > www.doctormckay.com >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Gordon Reynolds < >> > thisisgordonsem...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > I'm not sure this is that big of a deal. >> > > >> > > I've yet to see a single sane suggestion on how they police bad servers >> > > other than "have people report them", which sounds like a bad idea for >> > many >> > > hopefully obvious reasons. >> > > >> > > These are just video game servers; you aren't making money off them, if >> > > they sit empty you aren't losing money off them either [more than the >> > cost >> > > of running the server, which you're already doing]. And if you are >> > (making >> > > or losing money), then I would say Valve wants to put those kind of >> > servers >> > > out, as they generally fart up the experience with donation requests, >> or >> > > donor perks, annoying MOTDs, sound packs, or whatever else you crazy >> > > SourceMod kiddies do nowadays. >> > > >> > > People here are acting as if this some last stand situation. >> > > >> > > >> > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Game-Over <gameover.serv...@gmail.com >> > > >wrote: >> > > >> > > > >> > > > We've spoken before via Email and as an honest server operator I have >> > > > followed your directions via email to the letter. >> > > > >> > > > So, Fletcher, please justify this ludicrous move you have now made to >> > > > Quickplay, after all of the support that we (us) genuine server >> owners >> > > have >> > > > given you in the past years. >> > > > >> > > > You chose this route rather than actually dealing with corrupt server >> > > > owners themselves, which we (on this mailing list) have asked you to >> do >> > > on >> > > > multiple occasions. >> > > > >> > > > Looking forward to your reply sir. >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> > > > please visit: >> > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > > please visit: >> > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
